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Trust me, if you and I were in a room and somebody walked in and said "who can tell me something about XD's and 86 Softies?" I'd be pointing at you and walking out. Probably Stingrays and some other discs I'm not thinking of right now as well.
Thanks again but you would need to stay to fill n the gaps. From reading you all these years you kept going when I had to step back from golf because my job sent me out of town for extended periods. Like St Louis for a year the year after the flood in the early 90s.
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:09 PM
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These are also from early 90s but do not feel like what we now call DX. Looking back I would guess this was one of Innova's early testing of what now would be considered pro plastic. They have the same feel and stiffness of early pro.


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These are also from early 90s but do not feel like what we now call DX. Looking back I would guess this was one of Innova's early testing of what now would be considered pro plastic. They have the same feel and stiffness of early pro.

That's weird when you run across those. I ran across a Raven in the stash that I'd 100% say was pro plastic; at the time it was just an oddly textured disc but now you can pretty clearly see they were tinkering with what would become Pro.

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Thanks again but you would need to stay to fill n the gaps. From reading you all these years you kept going when I had to step back from golf because my job sent me out of town for extended periods. Like St Louis for a year the year after the flood in the early 90s.
Lol, I was there. You should have come up to White Birch, you could have taken my money.
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Another thing I'll add that may be purely anecdotal to St. Louis is that somewhere in '94-'95 there was a least one run of waxcrap XDs. There were a lot of waxcrap plastic runs of Innova discs in that time frame as the plastic quality in general seemed to take a nose dive; the discs felt waxy and slick and a lot of discs were warped out of the box. I was selling discs at the time and the serious players used to go through piles of discs looking for old ones because of the waxy plastic. Like always, Innova figured out what was wrong and the plastic got better, but for some reason the XDs I was getting were still waxcrap XDs long after I wasn't seeing it in other discs. The XD may have been just a lower-volume seller so the discs from that era hung around longer, but for a long time the XDs I was seeing were domey, felt slick and beat up really quickly. When I stopped getting those was when I started getting the XDs that felt like the Aviar putter plastic.

I said before that XDs were XDs, but the waxcrap plastic ones did kinda suck.

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A favorite of mine that had a full life.
It hurt when this one cracked.

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The AO Champ TFR runs were domey, unlike the DX runs which have a flatter top. The Champs are overstable, with more turn, when compared to the regular runs. I still bag the classic.
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I have a couple champ XDs I got a few years ago.
I don't remember why I didn't love them, but I didn't even though I wanted to.
The plastic is very fingerprinty.
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... Champ were run as a fundraiser for the Japan Open 2010 and Asia Open 2011 (Most of the discs are below 160grams). 2011 is when the "+" mold was created.
If mine came out of the 2011 AO Champ run, they are both 175g.

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The AO Champ TFR runs were domey, unlike the DX runs which have a flatter top. The Champs are overstable, with more turn, when compared to the regular runs. I still bag the classic.
Yeah, these I have are def domey, and probably why I was disappointed w the flight result.

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This is the only profile picture I have. It's the 1X KC Player of the Year stamped XD shown above. This is the normal level of dome in my old XDs.
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