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Old 03-10-2017, 03:58 AM
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I found this clip from McBeth, and the drive is super high for me, I usually throw twice as low. Should I be throwing this height usually for max distance on course?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di8a...youtu.be&t=167
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Old 03-10-2017, 06:29 AM
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Probably, I mean, it's McBeast. You should probably do everything like he does, especially putting.

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Old 03-10-2017, 06:51 AM
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Probably, I mean, it's McBeast. You should probably do everything like he does, especially putting.
I have not noticed this before, but someone who can crush 500ft+ here, maybe can share some light?
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Old 03-10-2017, 07:43 AM
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I have not noticed this before, but someone who can crush 500ft+ here, maybe can share some light?
Yes. I throw 500-550'. I can throw chest high laser beam drives that go 400', but I have to give it more air to reach 500'. For open hole / field work max D drives I'm throwing quite high:



On an open hole there's no reason not to. More distance between the disc and the ground = more hang time.

On a golf line with trees in play its different...you need to balance control and accuracy with height and distance. Also on really wooded holes keeping the disc low is good in case of a tree kick.

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Old 03-10-2017, 07:52 AM
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Mike, for the higher trajectory do you aim a little higher or let the nose angle come up a hair higher.
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Old 03-10-2017, 08:03 AM
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I aim higher and try to keep the nose down like I would on a chest high throw. Throwing it nose up stalls the disc out, which combined with throwing high can have pretty comical effects if its windy

For me the easiest way to throw nose down and high is on a flex line, so I usually tend to get my absolute longest throws with discs like the MVP Energy / Discmania PD2 / OS Bosses thrown high, left of center and with a lot of anhyzer.

Not a very practical golf line though. For golf line, on course max D I'm typically aiming in between where I would for a typical throw and an open field throw when it comes to height.

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Old 03-10-2017, 01:09 PM
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The harder you can throw, the higher you can throw and still have the disc carry. So if I'm trying to get a long carrying shot I will throw a bit higher than normal, but not as high as Mike C for example because the disc would stall out for me.

Basically if the disc is hitting the ground while still moving forward, and it results in a slide ahead or a skip, then it has more velocity that it could have used in the air...so more height would have helped. If the disc is fading out and dropping to the side, hitting the ground fairly softly, then you probably threw it a good height. At a certain point you'll notice the disc stalling and not going as far when you throw it higher than that ideal trajectory. Again...when you can throw harder then throwing higher is more natural.

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Old 03-10-2017, 02:51 PM
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^ I think slowplastic nailed it. At some point, throwing higher doesn't get you any more distance. But that all depends on how hard you are able to throw. For that reason, most of us won't be throwing nearly as high as McBeast for our own max distance.

Someone on these forums (I think SW22?) posted a good way to think about this relationship. I'll take the liberty of paraphrasing it here...poorly. For distance lines, when the disc is at the apex of the flight, it should still be moving forward. The disc angle at the apex should be nose down, and neutral or slight anhyzer.

If the disc isn't moving forward at the apex, the shot has stalled out.

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Old 03-10-2017, 04:19 PM
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I can't add much to slowplastic and Mike, but it has everything to do with your disc's stability. If you want max D out of a disc with lots of turn with potential for a massive S-curve, it's gonna need some air under it. And getting the nose angle down is pretty dang important on those shots, or you throw 250' newb hyzers instead of glorious 500' S-curves.
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Old 03-10-2017, 04:44 PM
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An understable disc needs a little more height to give it room to make it's turn and then still come back. For a stable disc I don't think you'll get any more distance from throwing it higher unless you are throwing it on a anny flex line.
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