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Old 10-18-2019, 03:55 PM
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That funny because at my private gym there are about 5 to 10 guys shooting 3 pointers on one end of the floor while the full court game is on the other end of the floor. And there is even professional athletes and gym employees involved. GASPS. And they all make it work.

At least you got one point correct in your paragraph. "Your rights end when they impinge on other rights, even if its a league."
So your gym is a public park?

The point here is respect. If a league is ongoing you give it respect. The league should give you respect by pointing out where you can play without interfering with the league. You give respect to the league by staying out of their way. It isn't an all or nothing proposition. Your opinion is that you shouldn't give respect to anyone, that only what you want matters. Kind of the same mentality that Weema has.
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Old 10-18-2019, 04:02 PM
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I wonder if ballgolfconvert is aware that he's the "Weema" of this thread.
Actually you are proving that you are all Weema's. As long as you get what you want it makes no difference how it affects others. Selfish and self absorbed is the name of the game and folks, that is why disc golf will never gain the popularity you all wish is bestowed upon it.
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Old 10-18-2019, 04:08 PM
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Actually you are proving that you are all Weema's. As long as you get what you want it makes no difference how it affects others. Selfish and self absorbed is the name of the game and folks, that is why disc golf will never gain the popularity you all wish is bestowed upon it.
Says the self absorbed convert running his weekly league like its the friggin NFL and everybody else must genuflect in their presence.

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Old 10-18-2019, 04:23 PM
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Another less obvious reason for the split except to those involved in running these events was the range of courses required to properly challenge the range of skill levels present and also the difference in the amount of time it would take to play those rounds on 2-round days.

The little recognized problem that remains tangentially related to the Weema issue is only a small percentage of PDGA members can realistically both qualify, get in and contend in any of the World Championships run each year. At least the women have Intermediate, Rec and Novice women divisions in their US championships and their biannual global event. But even though we also have Intermediate, Rec and Novice "mixed" divisions based on ratings breaks, there are no Worlds or global championships offered that are more accessible for players like Weema who's still above 700 rating. For example, even though it's only two events where your age and handicap range matter, ball golf does at least offer their men's and women's Mid-Amateur Championships.
The amount/variety of courses was actually a really big problem that reduced the number of viable places that could bid for a World's and created travel/logistic issues for people playing in World's. I think that was one of the solid reasons they had for making a lot of the changes that have been made.

I keep going back to Mid Nationals when this conversation comes up. Those green and purple divisions got no traction; people at those ratings levels didn't seem interested in competing for a "Championship" against people of a peer skill level. That was over a decade ago, though. Is that an idea you think should be revisited?

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Old 10-18-2019, 04:24 PM
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The PDGA gets to decide who can play in events
The PDGA decides that, for some events, you need to be above 900

That's really all there is to it! Lloyd and other sub 900 players don't deserve anything. He previously met the requirements and now doesn't. How does it take 8 pages for people to understand this?

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I keep going back to Mid Nationals when this conversation comes up. Those green and purple divisions got no traction; people at those ratings levels didn't seem interested in competing for a "Championship" against people of a peer skill level. That was over a decade ago, though. Is that an idea you think should be revisited?
I think rating brackets would be the most effective way for addressing lower skill level, championship events. St. Louis (who ran the 2007 Mid-Nats version) or Lemon Lake, for example, would have the courses and be more accessible than say Highbridge to reboot the concept. In particular, having a championship limiting the ages to at least 40+ would be a way to get larger, fair divisions and not have to offer over 20 age based, pro/am divisions. You wouldn't even need to run all rating ranges at a single event so you could tailor the courses for the specific skill levels.

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At least the women have Intermediate, Rec and Novice women divisions in their US championships
This was one of the biggest challenges in hosting the USWDGC- such a wide clientele to serve.

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Says the self absorbed convert running his weekly league like its the friggin NFL and everybody else must genuflect in their presence.
LOL. And you know what about my league?
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Old 10-18-2019, 05:05 PM
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LOL. And you know what about my league?

I know enough to know that if you're the representative then I'm glad I don't play in it.



-shrug-

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Old 10-18-2019, 05:26 PM
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So your gym is a public park?

The point here is respect. If a league is ongoing you give it respect. The league should give you respect by pointing out where you can play without interfering with the league. You give respect to the league by staying out of their way. It isn't an all or nothing proposition. Your opinion is that you shouldn't give respect to anyone, that only what you want matters. Kind of the same mentality that Weema has.

Your opinion is that the league shouldn't respect the fact that they are playing on a PUBLIC course.

They don't own it, therefore they need to oblige other players.

Get over yourself.

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