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Old 01-01-2017, 07:10 PM
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They'll hold their flight pattern for a long time, years in fact.

One of the great things about their discs is they tend to lose low speed fade without developing high speed turn. Granted molds that have high speed turn when new will keep showing it...

I have an eclipse volt I've been throwing since before they were released to the public that still doesn't show high speed turn. Its the straightest speed 9 disc I've seen. Got a Resistor with years on it, flies just like a fresh one with a later fade. Same with my Envys, Vectors, Ions etc.

I think MVP discs tend to hold the angle of release more stubbornly than non-overmold discs. Say you have a Vector and Roc, two molds with similar shapes. Throw them each with a bit of hyzer, the Vector is more likely to hold that hyzer angle to the ground while the Roc might flip up closer to flat during the high speed portion of its flight.
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Old 01-01-2017, 07:53 PM
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So then do the flight ratings hold true? If I buy a MVP disc that says -3 turn, will it just want to fly straight?
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Yea and no.

MVP/Axiom definitely have the biggest learning curve but once you learn how to throw them and how they like to be thrown they are F'ing awesome.

Due to the overmold if you throw with enough spin they tend to hold the thrown angle much longer.

At first when I gave MVP a shot I really didn't like them because I'm mainly a hyzer flipper for pretty much all my shots. However, when I learned to just throw MVP discs with the proper snap on the desired flight angle it was a thing of beauty.

I'm not saying there aren't MVP/Axiom mold that are good at hyzer flipping but that's just not where they shine. Due to me being a hyzer flipper with a lot of snap most of their discs tend to fly more stable than their flight ratings for me

So if you throw a -3 disc with hyzer and a good amount of snap it won't seem like a -3 at all but if you throw the same disc either with a very small amount of hyzer or preferably flat and the proper snap you'll see the -3.

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Old 01-01-2017, 09:27 PM
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So then do the flight ratings hold true? If I buy a MVP disc that says -3 turn, will it just want to fly straight?
No, it will still turn. If I throw an Insanity, Wave, Inspire, Spin, Theory, Vanish, Impulse, Signal, Relay etc. with hyzer, it will flip up to flat and turn over. Just like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P-NLndlEAM&t=2m12s
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No, it will still turn. If I throw an Insanity, Wave, Inspire, Spin, Theory, Vanish, Impulse, Signal, Relay etc. with hyzer, it will flip up to flat and turn over. Just like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P-NLndlEAM&t=2m12s
But u prolly throw much farther than I do. I max out a little over 400. So should I buy a MVP with flight ratings more understable than I expect? I throw cranks now, should I throw an mvp/axiom with a flight rating with more turn? Maybe a orbital or wave?
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:46 AM
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But u prolly throw much farther than I do. I max out a little over 400. So should I buy a MVP with flight ratings more understable than I expect? I throw cranks now, should I throw an mvp/axiom with a flight rating with more turn? Maybe a orbital or wave?
My best friend throws about 360-380' on a distance shot and gets a nice S-curve with the Neutron Insanity I gave him. Might be a good place to start for distance shots.
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Got to throw the Spin and Signal yesterday during a round.

The Spin has a place in my bag--it does exactly what I hoped it would do. I wanted it to use as an approach disc that I can turn fairly sharp and it works so much better than the others I've tried for that job.

The Signal is something I'm gonna have to work with, I reckon. It turns so much more than anything else in my bag. It flies well and once I get it under control, it could work for me.
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But u prolly throw much farther than I do. I max out a little over 400. So should I buy a MVP with flight ratings more understable than I expect? I throw cranks now, should I throw an mvp/axiom with a flight rating with more turn? Maybe a orbital or wave?
Find your Crank's flight path on their flight chart. Look at those lines on the discs you're looking into and buy the one that matches your desired flight. Their chart is pretty great at giving multiple people an idea of how they'll fly for their respective power level.
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But u prolly throw much farther than I do. I max out a little over 400. So should I buy a MVP with flight ratings more understable than I expect? I throw cranks now, should I throw an mvp/axiom with a flight rating with more turn? Maybe a orbital or wave?
Orbital is a flippy disc. You throw about where I do, and discs hold true to their flight numbers for me. Insanity offers a good bit of turn from a hyzer but comes back a little at the very end. A lighter switch flips all the way on a full power drive. I got a wave yesterday that I'm thinking about using for max D shots because my hands are too small to comfortably grip the Nitro/Octane, although they do absolutely bomb. I wheeled off a 435 footer with an Octane, hyzer flipped it drifted right then straightened out and gently faded. If you want a max D shot, it depends on your style of throwing... for instance, I love releasing flat for controlled shots up to 385-400, but if I'm going for all out D I'm hyzer flipping something. You may prefer a seasoned OS disc that will turn and fade from a flat release. Aim For The Chains throws about what we do but just a few feet longer and if I recall correctly throws Photons for big D. MVP discs will hold true to their descriptions and clean up your form, just get one and let it rip.
 

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Yeah' they are just discs. The gyro doesnt really add over-stability at all it just enhances some line holding ability of their molds.

I peraonally think its why the putters and slower molds go so damn far as well.

If you can throw 400' pretty sure there are over 15 molds from MVP/axiom which turn off the shelf from putters to 13 speeds. Like tbirs said just look at their flight chart/website and compare other molds you bag.
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