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Old 10-27-2014, 05:33 PM
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Chrome, I was trying to find a good resource to show what weight transfer should look like and I eventually went back to what clicked for me. SW22 posted a pic of a hockey player and that was when I turned into a maniac because I finally figured out how to shift weight.

It's exactly like this dude is explaining and he's doing the exact same motion we want, with the added step that we're going to shift the plant foot forward a bit. I grew up playing hockey, and as a kid spent countless hours/months/years working out how my little 50 pound sack of bones could shoot faster. This was the key.
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Old 10-27-2014, 06:19 PM
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That's a pretty good video, main difference is that in a BH we have to plant more closed because it's a one-handed front side swing and plant toe to heel ending more nose over heel instead of toe and not letting the front knee collapse forward.
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Old 10-27-2014, 06:30 PM
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I guess I'll look at it when I get home. My standstill vids must still look the same as they always have then? Same problems. I feel the weight stacking against my hip though, the tension/torsion. It's a matter of finding my way out of that in the right manner to get it to the other hip.
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Old 10-27-2014, 06:43 PM
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Yeah, your hips/rhythm look stiff setting up and your rear foot/leg just spins out with the heel and ankle moving away from the target, so your weight is not being driven forward. Need to squat more into the rear leg starting the swing and make the rear knee and ankle move forward ahead of the toes just like vintage Greg Norman. It's exactly what sevam1 takes about in "the move" and "right foot eversion", and in hershyzer drill and power of posture.

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Old 10-27-2014, 06:47 PM
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Have we decided that its better to pivot on your heel than your toe?
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Old 10-27-2014, 06:53 PM
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We've decided that pivoting is better than spinning. Past that, do what feels best. PMB pivots on the "blade" of his foot. Feldy advocates blades over heel/toe also, iirc. Dunipace has said that toe pivot is easier on the joints (relieves torsion better). I've heard that it changes based on the release angle (hyzer vs anny).
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Yeah, I've been trying the hershyser and whatnot. I'll keep trying, maybe another vid in the next couple days.
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Old 10-28-2014, 12:05 PM
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it would seem that, after watching a bunch of shawn clement videos, the unique challenge presented to disc golfers using an x-step is somehow allowing your body to pivot in the backswing without any ground to grab and initiate that backward pivot. we are trying to pull back and punch without any ground to initiate that reverse hip movement. that is why we start from a standstill.

i'm kind of wondering how it is possible for me to get my body into the correct orientation; you'd almost have you use your arm as a weight to clear your ribcage because we are starting from the wrong direction. with no ground to start the pivot, what do you do?
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Old 10-28-2014, 12:23 PM
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You can either do the MikeC style, moving your body around the disc or just use your back foot to push forward which gives you leverage to backswing.

Why wouldn't you have your back foot on the ground? Like in a hop?

In a hop you don't initiate the backswing until your back foot is back on the ground, driving you forward.
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it would seem that, after watching a bunch of shawn clement videos, the unique challenge presented to disc golfers using an x-step is somehow allowing your body to pivot in the backswing without any ground to grab and initiate that backward pivot. we are trying to pull back and punch without any ground to initiate that reverse hip movement. that is why we start from a standstill.

i'm kind of wondering how it is possible for me to get my body into the correct orientation; you'd almost have you use your arm as a weight to clear your ribcage because we are starting from the wrong direction. with no ground to start the pivot, what do you do?
Watch Rory and Pagraig do the happy gilmore. It's the same hop and pivot that Brinster and GG do, just with one hand and a shorter club.
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