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Old 08-23-2019, 09:44 PM
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Flight numbers are truly meaningless especially glide.
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Old 08-23-2019, 09:56 PM
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I mean, Infinite has Wizards with a 3 glide, Flight analyzer gives them a 2. Not sure where that 5 glide came from.

So you're trying to tell me the wizard has the same glide as a firebird?

The numbers are all made up. Some better than others.
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Old 08-23-2019, 10:15 PM
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So you're trying to tell me the wizard has the same glide as a firebird?

The numbers are all made up. Some better than others.
Of course the numbers are made up. The numbers are relative to each manufacturer's lineup. There is no universal flight number rating system. There is no disc throwing robot to calibrate these things.

Gateway is telling you the Wizard has similar glide with less overstability than a Firebird.

I'm telling you the Wizard isn't a glidey putter.
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Old 08-23-2019, 10:49 PM
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I'm telling you the Wizard isn't a glidey putter.
And that's what makes disc golf beautiful. I wholeheartedly disagree but at the end of the day, discs aren't perfect. They fly different for everyone, and everyone throws differently. I throw with a lot of spin and speed., so maybe it seems to glide farther for me. To each their own, and that's rad

If youd like to talk about it further feel free to dm me, let's not clutter up this thread
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Old 08-23-2019, 11:03 PM
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So you're trying to tell me the wizard has the same glide as a firebird?

The numbers are all made up. Some better than others.
Keep in mind that glide is relative to speed, or at least disc type. A putter and driver can both have a glide of 3 but that doesn't mean their glide is similar. It just means the putter has a 3 glide for putters (relatively average to above average) and the driver has a 3 glide for drivers (relatively low).
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Old 08-23-2019, 11:03 PM
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And that's what makes disc golf beautiful. I wholeheartedly disagree but at the end of the day, discs aren't perfect. They fly different for everyone, and everyone throws differently. I throw with a lot of spin and speed., so maybe it seems to glide farther for me. To each their own, and that's rad

If youd like to talk about it further feel free to dm me, let's not clutter up this thread
Here's my problem with this site. OP asks about low glide putters. People chime in with a wide spectrum of contradictory opinions that maybe don't really help answer the question. You make a post, sounding like an expert, where you made up glide numbers for a disc. New players will see our exchange and be confused. Instead of acknowledging that you made up your information, you basically say agree to disagree. I don't know you so I can't form an opinion of you as a person. I do know that "experts" here are feeding new players bad info on a regular basis. That misinformation is the problem that I have. No need to DM, I'm done with this conversation.
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Old 08-23-2019, 11:14 PM
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So you're trying to tell me the wizard has the same glide as a firebird?

The numbers are all made up. Some better than others.
Agreed with LateWesternSky.

Speed is the required power to create an accurate display of the glide/turn/fade - or at least it used to be. You simply cannot get a true -1/3 out of a new Destroyer if you don't throw hard enough. Don't give a **** what the Destroyer glide is...guarantee it's relevant to if you actually throw hard enough. Putters and mids are easier to get up to speed so it's easier to see a more accurate representation of their intended flight.

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Old 08-23-2019, 11:28 PM
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Well this has spiralled. I never claimed to be an expert. I was simply sharing my opinion based on experiences. You know, how a forum is supposed to work. I dont need to prove my qualifications, be it many years throwing the disc in question in competition, to share my experience.

And FWIW the wizards numbers have changed more than occasionally. The glide used to be a 10 according to gateway.
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:09 AM
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I wasn't attacking you Waves I apologize if it came off that way. The royal "you" was my intentions.
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Old 08-24-2019, 02:41 PM
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Flight numbers are truly meaningless especially glide.
Speed is relative but the numbers from most companies help to find a disc that is a putter, hybrid midrange like putter or hybrid putter like midrange, midrange, hybrid midrange like fairway or fairway like midrange, fairway to control driver slot, then max distance 11+. The other numbers seem meaningless especially fade and glide as this can vary in just one mold due to how a disc molds up, the plastic used, and in Innova case X or L wing for some molds.

Basically the end flight fade if one can get a disc up to the power the mold needs and the speed numbers of a disc can be more consistent in finding a disc for the player that holds those lines. Even Fade can change from plastic to plastic but in a particular plastic the end fade is usually the same from disc to disc with a few exceptions like the Innova X and L wing.
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