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Old 01-16-2015, 06:19 PM
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Well that's what rules are for and when you break them it's the result....?
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Old 01-16-2015, 06:25 PM
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I don't see "advantage" any where in the rules.
Agreed, but this is debating an edge case that can't even be determined using video footage. The advantage argument is just an extra point being brought up to point out that it's not even an important edge case (and that's ignoring the rules specifically saying that benefit of the doubt goes to the player).
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Old 01-16-2015, 06:28 PM
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You can break rules without gaining an advantage. You're comparing an objective rule with a subjective opinion.
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Then it's a junk rule.
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Old 01-16-2015, 06:33 PM
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He's the king of YouTube foot faults; I'd say at least half of his walking putts are falling. He's nice though, so if you call him out, you probably won't be invited to the hotel room for lukewarm Bud Ice.

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Old 01-16-2015, 06:35 PM
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This is outside the circle, so it's not a putt, or falling putt. I have high speed footage of Uli and Schwebby and a few other top pros on their "jump putts" and have conclusive evidence they are all legit.
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Whenever this particular issue comes up - with this player or others before him - I always take a moment and l remember what it feels like to actually intend to fault. Try it some time. Try and see if you can do it - no, not just plant that step through foot and then throw - but try and throw *right* at that moment, like you were *trying* to get away with something.

There is something jarring that happens if you actually plant that front foot before you let go - its a weird feeling, very disjointed. Granted a step through putt is a different feeling thing to begin with, but I had a hard time doing an intentional faulting putt with this style. Seemed my brain always let go before the other shoe got to the contact and to a weighted or supported point.

But then again at some point in basketball history, players brains could feel they were going to travel and tried to avoid it…

regardless, my own trials on seeing what it would take led me to believe that as much as our eyes may say one thing to us - I'd bet the true faulted putt using this style with a good operator is actually super rare.

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This is outside the circle, so it's not a putt, or falling putt. I have high speed footage of Uli and Schwebby and a few other top pros on their "jump putts" and have conclusive evidence they are all legit.
is this on youtube?
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I won't call it on him. He can be as questionable as allows him to sleep at night. That's a far sight more questionable than I could sleep with, though.
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Old 01-16-2015, 06:43 PM
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is this on youtube?
No, it's on my computer at home, or I think I still have it, might have been erased since it's a couple years old. I check later and upload if I find it.
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