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Old 09-18-2017, 01:37 PM
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Better form and/or hyzerflipping. Nobody needs a "forehand" disc.
But what if I want to go straight with a dumpy fade to the right at the end? I throw FH with very little OAT... the smoothest form in the world is not going to give me the flight I want out of my heat or a roadrunner.

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As said numerous times, convex = more understable...
Yeah I know, otherwise why would I have made this thread smart guy?

All else held equal, a concave rim is going to give me the flight I'm looking for. But I am curious as to what discs exist out there that overcome a convex rim with a high PLH for example to achieve a more OS flight.
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Old 09-18-2017, 03:45 PM
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I wasn't trying to be rude it's just the truth. Sorry not sorry.

Why wouldn't an Eagle/TB/Rival/trillion other stable discs do that for you? If it HAS to be convex (relatively speaking) then disc up to something faster. Otherwise (wo)man up and accept the mold may have to be more on the concave side.

Again I don't mean to be rude but the magical disc you're searching for is much harder to come by than accepting some change in your gameplay. I post on these boards to improve others gameplay through my own knowledge...not to tell everyone what they always want to hear. Check out my tag under my username if you don't believe me.
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Old 09-18-2017, 07:52 PM
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Old 09-18-2017, 07:53 PM
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:40 PM
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If you want a not too popular choice a Gateway Illusion has a straight wing. An Illusion with a high plh can be pretty overstable.
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:47 PM
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Like others have said, convex bottoms create a more understable flight, so anything with a convex bottom will have to have a very overstable top to get a neutral-overstable flight. The Tracker was my first thought. Surge/Surge SS/Rogue aren't really noticeabley convex, but they're pretty flat.
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Old 09-19-2017, 12:15 AM
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Like others have said, convex bottoms create a more understable flight, so anything with a convex bottom will have to have a very overstable top to get a neutral-overstable flight. The Tracker was my first thought. Surge/Surge SS/Rogue aren't really noticeabley convex, but they're pretty flat.
Right, so is a Wraith. It's not a convex wing but it's not really all that concave either. Just barely. A good Wraith or Surge is still one of the great FH discs of all time, imho.

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Old 09-19-2017, 11:42 AM
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Like others have said, convex bottoms create a more understable flight, so anything with a convex bottom will have to have a very overstable top to get a neutral-overstable flight. The Tracker was my first thought. Surge/Surge SS/Rogue aren't really noticeabley convex, but they're pretty flat.
But what about the V discs? The Vroc is the only one I've thrown, but I know the convex bottom on the rim makes it more resistant to high speed turn. It just seems strange, because I would agree, most discs follow the logic of convex=understable and concave=overstable. Except the V discs.
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Old 09-19-2017, 12:16 PM
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probably has to do with the bead on the convex rim^
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Old 09-19-2017, 12:16 PM
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I happen to have a Luster Savant and it is definitely more OS than the numbers say. It is the disc the OP is requesting. I found that it was actually better to FH than a Champ ThunderBird. It feels kinda weird in the hand but that makes sense now.
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