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Yeah somewhere between pre flight numbers and post flight numbers (while the patent numbers were still present) the rims started to come out slanted, where earlier they were closer to vertical.

Most of us prefer the more vertical rims.
Interesting. I guess I havent come across any. None of the Banshees Ive handled recently felt like they were plussed.
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Old 10-01-2017, 12:07 AM
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^As a long time Banshee thrower they're certainly out there. I was skeptical to use the first one I came across but I noticed zero difference in flight...turn/fade/skips/rolls/grenades/overhand - all acted exactly how I expected.
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Old 10-01-2017, 09:42 AM
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Interesting. I guess I havent come across any. None of the Banshees Ive handled recently felt like they were plussed.
I haven't come across any, either. But it wouldn't bother me if I did. I've never had a problem with Plus mold rims.
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Old 10-01-2017, 11:30 AM
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It's always hard to know with Innova since they have a history of changing molds without saying anything, The Banshee mold might be the same and a run just molded up funny.

There was a run of Rocs 7-8 years ago that freaked everyone out; the rims were plusy and they were really domey. It was right about the same time that the + rims were introduced so the assumption was that they had +ed the Rancho Roc. All I could figure was that they ran a terrible run of domey Rocs. Domey versions of something that shouldn't be that domey seemed to also have plusy feeling rims, kinda the consequence of a run of discs that mold up funny.

With Rocs, by the next year you didn't see many of freaks anymore. Banshees are a low-volume disc so if they ran a crappy run of Champ Banshees they would be around for years, an effect made worse by the fact that people like me are not buying them anymore. It's possible that they could have had a subsequent run that came out flatter with normal feeling rims that are out there.

OR...I could totally wrong and speculating about something I really have no knowledge of. Welcome to the Internet.

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Old 10-01-2017, 09:09 PM
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It's always hard to know with Innova since they have a history of changing molds without saying anything, The Banshee mold might be the same and a run just molded up funny.

There was a run of Rocs 7-8 years ago that freaked everyone out; the rims were plusy and they were really domey. It was right about the same time that the + rims were introduced so the assumption was that they had +ed the Rancho Roc. All I could figure was that they ran a terrible run of domey Rocs. Domey versions of something that shouldn't be that domey seemed to also have plusy feeling rims, kinda the consequence of a run of discs that mold up funny
I actually have one of these I bought new at a PiAS last year. I freaking love it. It almost has too much dome. But it glides and holds any angle better than any other mid Ive thrown.

As for Banshees, Im guess its just how the new champ plastic runs. Looking at my newer DX, the plus rim certainly isnt the case.
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Old 10-01-2017, 11:55 PM
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I've been on the lookout for flat Banshees for like 3 years now. I haven't found one in a store yet.
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I've been on the lookout for flat Banshees for like 3 years now. I haven't found one in a store yet.
It helps if you can go to one of the big stores like Inifinite, they usually have a whole box of stuff even if they don't move fast.

Problem is I see some of the employees are onto the good stuff, they set aside nice stuff for themselves a lot, whether it is transitional colors or old runs of stuff that show up like older TeeBirds.
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Thinking of putting together an off-the-wall bag for funsies. 150 class champ banshees? Talking about 155g or so. Nothing in the 160s. Opinions? Is it the true Longer teebird?

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Thinking of putting together an off-the-wall bag for funsies. 150 class champ banshees? Talking about 155g or so. Nothing in the 160s. Opinions? Is it the true Longer teebird?
I have a 148g Champ I picked up for thumbers. For some reason I could not get an effective thumber going with it, I feel like there's not enough mass there to get the wrist to snap at the top of the swing. It's got to be in my head because we're only talking a 15g difference between the 165g I used to thumber all the time.

Anyway, it molded up really nice, in stiff, pearly champ with a flat top. I honestly haven't even thrown it backhand at all.
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Thinking of putting together an off-the-wall bag for funsies. 150 class champ banshees? Talking about 155g or so. Nothing in the 160s. Opinions? Is it the true Longer teebird?
I have some Champ Banshees in the 160s, the lowest weight being 165g. These are good discs and do what I want Banshees to do.

Then I got a 150g Champ Banshee. It flew long and really well, but sometimes didn't fade into a headwind as much as I wanted it to. So, I finally came across an F2 Champ Banshee at 157g., splitting that weight difference, and it's "just right"... not TOO brickish, not TOO straight and Teebird-ish... for me.

So yes, you'll probably get that Teebird-ish flight with a very lightweight Banshee. But longer than a Teebird? That I dunno....
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