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Old 06-19-2019, 03:26 PM
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I want an EchoStar Groove.
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Old 06-19-2019, 04:59 PM
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I want an EchoStar Groove.
That would be an unconscionable waste of good Echostar plastic.

Put that Echostar plastic into a run of Terns!
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Old 06-19-2019, 05:11 PM
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I want an EchoStar Groove.
They exist! They're hard to find.

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It’s within the last couple of years at least since the ones around have the disc golf only tooling. So they were at least run a second time.
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I had this thought the other day. I bet it’s been years since the actually made a run of grooves.
I've seen some EMBOSSED Grooves so I know they have been making more runs of them. I've also seen EMBOSSED Daedelus recently.
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Old 06-19-2019, 06:08 PM
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I've seen some EMBOSSED Grooves so I know they have been making more runs of them. I've also seen EMBOSSED Daedelus recently.
I guess this should make me angry, but it is not like Innova fails to run plenty of the molds we all love. They seem to be able to produce as much as they need, unlike some other companies.
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Old 06-19-2019, 06:29 PM
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Maybe this thread has run its course, but just wanted to share a few thoughts on the Jeremy Rusco interview, which I listened to today.

I found it peculiar they buried the biggest topic until 40-something minutes in, though I can understand wanting to discuss new products on the market. Get it, but think wrong choice.

The actual conversation was fairly unprofessional and too much of a chucklefest for my tastes, but that’s the norm for DD. I prob wouldn’t have minded the chuckles so much if they hadn’t had been so cute with trying to massage what they meant by retired while also dangling the idea of molds possibly becoming unretired etc. Think a more direct “talking points” approach that clearly communicated key ideas would have benefitted consumer better.

I only carry 4 DD molds but they are some of my most thrown discs: Escape (bag 3), Verdict (bag 1, sometimes 2), Warden (for approaches) and Deputy (main putter). I’m always trying to convince myself to move on from them (including bc I don’t like the prison/law enforcement theme) but I really like those 4 discs, I like the glide their discs feature, and I like as a noodle arm that the discs, in Lucid, beat in fairly quickly and then stay at that beat-in stability for a good while (that’s been my experience, at least).

I do wonder how much thought was given to relative duplication across Trilogy brands in which one mold likely controls market (likely with Harp/Suspect/Slammer). Wonder how sales compare between Bard and Verdict (and Anchor). That’s what I’d really like to see: sales figures for similar discs in Trilogy lineup.
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Old 06-19-2019, 07:09 PM
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That would be an unconscionable waste of good Echostar plastic.

Put that Echostar plastic into a run of Terns!
I actually found my echostar Tern in my stacks of discs recently and threw it. Problem was, it was a really wet day, so I couldn't get much of a feel for it. I'll take it out again soon with some other discs and compare it.

I agree an Echostar Groove would be a waste. The disc flies like absolute crap. I don't think changing the plastic would help at all. Its so damn glideless.
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Old 06-19-2019, 07:54 PM
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I've seen some EMBOSSED Grooves so I know they have been making more runs of them. I've also seen EMBOSSED Daedelus recently.

Someone can and will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they can go back and emboss even old runs of discs if they want to. So I'm not sure if embossing is actually proof of a new (or multiple) runs.
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Old 06-19-2019, 08:45 PM
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Someone can and will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they can go back and emboss even old runs of discs if they want to. So I'm not sure if embossing is actually proof of a new (or multiple) runs.
They can yes, but they only seem to do it with discs where the mold has not been penned. Never seen a penned and engraved disc, although they certainly could exist. So unless they molded up a bunch of Grooves, never penned them and then put them in a stack somewhere, and later decided to engrave them, they are a newer run of them.

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Old 06-20-2019, 02:23 PM
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Late to the party here but I decided to mix up my mids and gave the eMac truth another run at my workhorse slot. It has finally won its spot in my bag but I had originally planned to pair it up with a DD understable mid with the same feel and call it a day. As it turns out, they don’t have any anymore. Kind of frustrated they basically got rid of an entirely slot in their lineup. Evidence, warrant, and patrol all could’ve had a run but I don’t really like the idea of bagging a disc that I can’t easily replace. One of the reasons I tried the eMac again.
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Old 06-20-2019, 03:11 PM
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Late to the party here but I decided to mix up my mids and gave the eMac truth another run at my workhorse slot. It has finally won its spot in my bag but I had originally planned to pair it up with a DD understable mid with the same feel and call it a day. As it turns out, they don’t have any anymore. Kind of frustrated they basically got rid of an entirely slot in their lineup. Evidence, warrant, and patrol all could’ve had a run but I don’t really like the idea of bagging a disc that I can’t easily replace. One of the reasons I tried the eMac again.
Emac + Evidence combo is my bread and butter. I feel your pain.
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