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Old 06-19-2019, 08:46 PM
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I can push 400ft with s&d. Doesnt meen thats good for the game.

Lets talk about the size of the baskets.....smaller is what we need....am i right?
Nope!

The other thing that would help More is... Less chains! I started play in mid 2003 when Mach V or the Innova Discatcher basket was the top of the line and baskets like the Mach X were not made so players would not have a basket that even the very edges of the basket would suck in putts. With the old baskets the putts got missed on edges, the putts would cut through on driving putts, and putts would be able to bounce off the center pole.

I still like the taller bottom disc catcher part at the bottom, the Innova baskets and the Lighting D-B5 baskets are the ones that have had the large bottom disc catcher parts since the begging.
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Old 06-19-2019, 10:45 PM
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I can push 400ft with s&d. Doesnt meen thats good for the game.

Lets talk about the size of the baskets.....smaller is what we need....am i right?
Baskets could stay the same size but maybe bring the top of the chains in towards the center about 1-2 inches.
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Old 06-20-2019, 04:54 AM
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Not sure if others have this observation but it seems that the general drift of the game's rules and their interpretation has been to make the game easier (less demanding), not harder (more demanding). While I'm certain some will say that's to eliminate 'arbitrary randomness' and the like, it seems that any adjustment will never be really 'popular' unless it follows this trend, no matter how much potential play value the new change may offer.
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Old 06-20-2019, 08:00 AM
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I've put a comprehensive list of reasons why S&D is not needed:

There are already rules in place to cover what happens if you foot fault.

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Old 06-20-2019, 11:01 AM
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Baskets could stay the same size but maybe bring the top of the chains in towards the center about 1-2 inches.
Yesssssss! This guy gets it
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:00 AM
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Foot faults aren't the only reason for S&D.

Also, there are at least two types of S&D. Type 1 is "no run-up". Type 2 is "no run-up and no follow-through". I dont' know if I've seen is suggested, but there could even be a Type 3 of "run-up allowed but no follow-through" which is essentially the current rule inside 10m.
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:10 PM
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Deliver and stay is the 4th. Your supporting point must remain in contact with the lie until balance is demonstrated. Allows run-ups, and follow-through (limited)

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Old 06-23-2019, 04:34 AM
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Foot fault? I wish jump putting would get banned.
Agreed. Plus isn't his foot on his mini? That's a foot fault as well if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 06-23-2019, 10:09 AM
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Why do so many people want to change the rules instead of learning to play within them ?
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Old 06-23-2019, 12:02 PM
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The reduced distance of the throw may be just a side effect. The problem being addressed is that step putt and jump putt violations are difficult to see in real time.
If you're enforcing the rule just to enforce the rule, yes. However, if you're enforcing the rule because someone is trying to take unfair advantage, I would mostly disagree. IMO, until you replant in front of your lie, you're not really taking much advantage. That takes another long moment after you've clearly broken the rule.

The really tricky ones I've noticed more aren't dealt with by s/d. A lot of times, you have a bad lie, but good footing behind it. On those throws, you lightly place your foot on your lie, but throw completely off the back foot. Many times, the front foot comes up at some point and joins the back foot. It's equally difficult in this instance to tell if the foot was still down at release. Some times I've seen this happen stretching out around a tree; both feet end up a couple feet to the side of the tree, but it's not obvious when the foot left the lie.
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