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Old 08-02-2019, 03:19 PM
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Multiple kinds of stance violations occur, be it missing the mark on a field shot or something related to jump/step putting

Time violations are never called

Players hardly ever watch each other in order to observe infractions

Many players are just plain wrong about some of the rules. Whether they were told an incorrect rule and never looked it up to confirm for themselves or they simply picked it up on their own, I'll never know.
You realize that ams are probably a lot worse at this right. There isnt am coverage for us to see all the violations and dissect them on the internet.
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Old 08-02-2019, 03:22 PM
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The organization is in solid financial shape with the current fee structure. I would support a reduction before an increase but risk taking is not what non-profits do in general.

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Old 08-02-2019, 03:27 PM
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Like many others, I don't play in enough tournaments to make it worthwhile, but I think that the $50 goes towards helping the sport, so that seems worthwhile. Giving more for no tangible reason isn't appealing though. Raising the money, then deciding what to do, does seem backwards.

However, I might be ok with an optional $10 increase, if the PDGA outlined why they need the money. For example, if they said that for an extra $10 I could get this year's annual PDGA disc, I would likely do it. I have my current one hanging up now, and it makes for a nice conversation piece.
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Old 08-02-2019, 03:32 PM
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However, I might be ok with an optional $10 increase, if the PDGA outlined why they need the money. For example, if they said that for an extra $10 I could get this year's annual PDGA disc, I would likely do it. I have my current one hanging up now, and it makes for a nice conversation piece.
FYI, they do make the membership disc (and mini) available to renewing members at an extra cost ($20).
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Old 08-02-2019, 03:35 PM
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FYI, they do make the membership disc (and mini) available to renewing members at an extra cost ($20).
$20 for a disc and a mini? That's outrag... wait, no - that's fair. I hadn't seen that.

Ok, then I'm back to leaving the fees the way that they are.

(Seriously - thanks for mentioning... I haven't had to go through a renewal yet.)
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Old 08-02-2019, 04:19 PM
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$20 for a disc and a mini? That's outrag... wait, no - that's fair. I hadn't seen that.

Ok, then I'm back to leaving the fees the way that they are.

(Seriously - thanks for mentioning... I haven't had to go through a renewal yet.)
It's not that well advertised, but it is the last thing they offer before check out on the online renewal.

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Old 08-02-2019, 04:42 PM
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This all may be true, but what exactly should the PDGA be doing about it? Beyond maybe making more of an effort on the education side, I'm not sure how much they can do.

And please don't say using referees or rules officials on the course. As nice as that would be, I think it's well down the list of things that that sort of money, if it existed in the PDGA budget, should be spent on.
I don't know exactly what they should be doing. Maybe if I had more time, money, and incentive I could think up something. But I DO know I don't feel like paying the PDGA money when I hold myself to a higher standard than the pros do.

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You realize that ams are probably a lot worse at this right. There isnt am coverage for us to see all the violations and dissect them on the internet.
Yes I realize this, thanks
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Old 08-02-2019, 08:31 PM
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>Forces TD's to collect a $10 surcharge<
>Allows surcharge to be waived<

Aren't you happy with your $10 discount?!?
I mean...if I was playing 5+ events this year...I might get 2...so the discount is kind of meh. Maybe next year I'll actually make it worth it
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Old 08-03-2019, 01:29 PM
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If the PDGA were needing to increase expenditures, wouldn't it be primarily to promote the pro side of the game? (Payouts, promotion, media coverage, venues, etc.) I say if the PDGA needs more money, it should come from the pro memberships.
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Old 08-03-2019, 05:47 PM
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Increase fees = less membership = shrinking the sport.

The best way to increase revenue is to increase membership. My opinion.

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