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Old 08-06-2019, 02:54 AM
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Got a pair of Fireflies and took one out to the local ballfields to test it out. No putting, just throwing. No wind to speak of at the field. I throw Classic Aviars and P2s both BH and FH, so those are my reference points.

The Firefly is really close to a P2, but not quite the same (at least the one I threw today, compared to the 3 P2s I had with me.) The Firefly has a very slightly lower profile. It feels like it is somewhere between Aviars and P2s, closer to a P2. Really comfortable. The plastic is pretty firm and definitely more grippy than DX/D-Line/Pro/P-Line plastics. Overall in hand it felt great to me.

Throwing RHBH: I warmed up with 10 standstills starting from about 150 feet and going up to 200 feet. Trying to throw flat, this disc flew straight with a slight finish left at the end. It held a hyzer just fine, and on two anhyzer throws, one held the anhyzer all the way to the ground (a steeper anhyzer angle) while a gentler anhyzer panned out smoothly and landed flat.

Then I threw a dozen throws with either one step or a full X-step, aiming for around 250 feet and reaching 264 feet (longest measured throw of the field session.) Thrown low with more power, this disc flew laser straight. Thrown with a little height, it still flew straight with a slight left finish.

Throwing RHFH: My putter FH throws are usually for upshots, unless on a short drive. I only got out to around 225 feet throwing this disc on a FH, which is similar to my usual putter FH. On a dozen FH throws, this disc flew straight, sometimes with a little turn/flip that I'm thinking was from me torquing it. Mostly just straight flights with a little right finish.

Overall I think this disc flew like a D-Line P2 that has been thrown a bit: more stable than overstable. The main difference is the grip; it was noticeably more grippy than the typical Innova baseline plastics. At the beginning it was almost too grippy, with dry grass clippings sticking to the disc. After a few throws the dry grass stopped sticking to it, but it still felt nice and grippy in the hand.

I'll try putting with it, but I'm pretty solidly on Classic Aviars for putting. I'll have to see how it is in the wind to really compare it to P2s. There is one hole in particular that I use to test putters: teeing off through a wooded tunnel out into an open area that can be windy. Also it may have better grip in wet conditions.

First impression: solid disc, as expected from what is basically a firm, grippy relative of the P2.
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Old 08-06-2019, 03:05 AM
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I wonder if Innova have any plans for a premium plastic Firefly? Sounds like a good throwingputter
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Old 08-06-2019, 11:08 PM
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I wonder if Innova have any plans for a premium plastic Firefly? Sounds like a good throwingputter
Premium plastic P2s don't seem to be as widely available as premium plastic Innova throwing putters. I like P2s and the Firefly for throwing, so I'd buy some premium plastic Fireflies. Though it seems what really differentiates the Firefly from the P2 is the Nexus plastic.

Tested the Firefly for putting today. From circle's edge and up to about 50 feet, it seemed just like my D-Line P2s.

I really like the Firefly.
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Old 08-07-2019, 07:19 AM
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I never really gave the P2 a fair shake, but I picked up a Firefly based solely on how good the plastic felt and now it's my favorite disc in the bag. It's super versatile as a throwing putter because of its neutral stability, and it putts nice too. Made it hard for me to justify carrying any other discs.
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Old 08-07-2019, 07:56 AM
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Premium plastic P2s don't seem to be as widely available as premium plastic Innova throwing putters. I like P2s and the Firefly for throwing, so I'd buy some premium plastic Fireflies. Though it seems what really differentiates the Firefly from the P2 is the Nexus plastic.

Tested the Firefly for putting today. From circle's edge and up to about 50 feet, it seemed just like my D-Line P2s.

I really like the Firefly.
You can get the P2 in S-line (star), C-line (champ). . C-line MF, Luster, C-line Glow and a few more. . so quite a few premium plastic options.

I putted with the KC Pro Aviar for a while but the only premium plastic i could find for throwing was the G-star

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Old 08-07-2019, 11:30 AM
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You can get the P2 in S-line (star), C-line (champ). . C-line MF, Luster, C-line Glow and a few more. . so quite a few premium plastic options.
Yes, those all exist, but rarely in stock in the stores I have been in. You have to get them online.

Similar to how I like the FD, but they are not as easy to find in stores. Sure, you can order online, but I like to shop in person wherever I go. It supports the people who often support the local disc golf scene, and I can hold the disc in my hand and make sure it is to my liking.
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Old 08-07-2019, 10:10 PM
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Sounds like a beadless Yeti.
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Old 08-09-2019, 07:04 AM
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You can get the P2 in S-line (star), C-line (champ). . C-line MF, Luster, C-line Glow and a few more. . so quite a few premium plastic options.

I putted with the KC Pro Aviar for a while but the only premium plastic i could find for throwing was the G-star
They have Champion and Star for the P&A Aviar. (see below links) BB Aviar the most premium I have ever found was in KC Pro, they rarely made other plastic types for the Big bead ever since Ken Climo got to use the mold, they are all variations on Pro plastic made for Sponsored pro players.

https://proshop.innovadiscs.com/champion-aviar.html Champion

https://proshop.innovadiscs.com/star...-approach.html Star
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:42 AM
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They have Champion and Star for the P&A Aviar. (see below links) BB Aviar the most premium I have ever found was in KC Pro, they rarely made other plastic types for the Big bead ever since Ken Climo got to use the mold, they are all variations on Pro plastic made for Sponsored pro players.

https://proshop.innovadiscs.com/champion-aviar.html Champion

https://proshop.innovadiscs.com/star...-approach.html Star
https://store.discgolfunited.com/star-aviar-driver.html

Lots in g star floating around as well
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:51 AM
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https://store.discgolfunited.com/star-aviar-driver.html

Lots in g star floating around as well
That is a Link to Star not G-Star. I was trying to help Jolt out by saying more then G-Star is out for the Aviar P&A mold that gets called a driver putter in premium plastics.
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