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Old 08-20-2019, 11:58 AM
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Old 08-20-2019, 11:58 AM
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Old 08-20-2019, 11:59 AM
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I think this is all positive. Almost all of us can empathize with him. We're kind of rooting for ourselves (or - for those who have since gotten better - our former selves).
meh....not really. I don't think he represents the typical weekend warrior player at all, because I think "that" player (especially when approaching the 4 year mark) would have played much better. I now look at him as a novelty maybe even as a comedian, seeing what he can get away with in return for an experience. I could be wrong, but I don't see him as someone "everyone" can cheer for at all. ie: Not the "Rudy" of disc golf by any means.
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Old 08-20-2019, 12:26 PM
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NW Gold 12 is interesting as it's not just long, it also requires some strategy on shot placement, including a piece that is not intuitive.
What is it? Is it that you want to be away from the uphill part to make the next shot easier? Unless youre on top of course
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Old 08-20-2019, 02:16 PM
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What is it? Is it that you want to be away from the uphill part to make the next shot easier? Unless youre on top of course
Yeah, that's the impression I get. Starting from the premise that, for long tight fairways, the strategy is usually "get as far as you can safely make it while still coming to rest in the fairway." The uphill section in the later part of NW 12's fairway makes that not necessarily the case, because getting tucked close to the bottom of the hill (or on the lower section of the slope itself) is a dead zone for two reasons:

1.) You may not be able to see the basket.
2.) You are forced to throw a steeper uphill angle, which risks stalling and fading out of the fairway if you try to do much more than clear the knuckle.

So basically as soon as you're looking to clear the bridge, your calculus may change from "get it as far as I can while remaining in the fairway" to "how many throws will it take me to be up the hill and in the clear to start looking at approach options?" And the answer to that question is probably MINIMUM two throws, so the smart play that minimizes the risk involved in those 2 throws is to "cut in half" the distance to the top of the hill, which means laying up to somewhere across the bridge where you have a reasonable angle to get to the top of the hill, but aren't too tempted to push it much farther on the next shot and risk stalling/fading into the bumble.

Honestly that's part of what makes it so tough to get in 4. It's not just the distance plus tight fairway, but adding in the elevation in a way that makes it really hard to attack the last part of the fairway without making the pit stop at the top knuckle.

All that having been said: It's a terrible hole and I don't get all the hype (Just kidding, in reality I'm just scared that I would take a double-digit, Weemaesque score on that monster of a hole.)
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Old 08-20-2019, 02:57 PM
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I am going to disagree with Horsman when he says that the NW course was good before the redesign. It wasn't. It was so much throwing back and forth up top with ropes to define OB. Very boring and lame with like 4 good holes. It is a good course now.

As far as timing of post production. I don't think that Jomez is purposefully timing the release to coincide with the live coming out. I am hoping it is just coincidence. Someone asked why all the crews don't get together and schedule things better, and none of us have a real incentive to do so. We all have our own part to do, and are just trying to get our stuff out as fast as possible.

I like the 5 round format. I don't think we need more full rounds. I could be convinced of a final 9 as well to ratchet up the pressure.
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Disagree. The NW course in its previous form was a well designed course. The one without the OB ropes, just the course itself. Is it better now? Sure.

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Old 08-20-2019, 03:08 PM
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Disagree. The NW course in its previous form was a well designed course. The one without the OB ropes, just the course itself. Is it better now? Sure.
I have only seen it with the ropes during Ledgestone to be fair. But I didn't think it was great for the MPO players. Clearly it is better now.
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Old 08-20-2019, 03:31 PM
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I like the 5 round format. I don't think we need more full rounds. I could be convinced of a final 9 as well to ratchet up the pressure.
The old format was a product of its time. Even big A Tiers in the 90's needed Joe Lunchpail/weekend frolfer to sign up and fill the field, so you rarely saw events with more than play on Saturday/Sunday and you tended to see four round/two shotgun rounds per day events. Once you went to World's, playing two competitive rounds in a day wasn't unusual to anybody.

Now? The bigger events seem to have followed the USDGC format and are mostly one round per day with tee times. The top players don't play two competitive rounds in a day much anymore. To make World's more rounds than it is, you would have to either make it longer than five days (ugh!) or make players play two scored rounds in a day. It just really doesn't fit with how disc golf has evolved at the highest level.
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Old 08-20-2019, 03:34 PM
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I'm glad it's 5 rounds...it separates it from other events. The 1-2 years it was a 4 round event...it just felt like another NT or DGPT event, cool to win, but not really a big deal.

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Old 08-20-2019, 04:05 PM
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No one wants a sixth round more than Ricky. I’d love to see a final 9. Let’s not be those uptight golfers.

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