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Old 08-26-2019, 09:37 PM
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looking into throwing these and trying to get a reference for what exactly is a flat top and cant find any good profile pictures
is the differences more noticeable than these sentinel's ?
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Old 08-26-2019, 09:43 PM
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Neither of those are flat really. That’s like normal roc dome right there, or slightly less. Flat is flat, no dome, just flat.

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Old 08-26-2019, 11:53 PM
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Neither of those are flat really. That’s like normal roc dome right there, or slightly less. Flat is flat, no dome, just flat.
Agreed, when you buy the labeled “flat top” rocs, they are so flat it’s like a different disc. Too flat in my opinion. The ones I’ve thrown are a little more squirrely in a headwind.
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Old 08-27-2019, 12:18 AM
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Agreed, when you buy the labeled “flat top” rocs, they are so flat it’s like a different disc. Too flat in my opinion. The ones I’ve thrown are a little more squirrely in a headwind.
IMO the big problem with the flat tops is they get squirrelier as they beat in so you can't cycle them; a beat flat top is a worthless turnover disc.

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Old 08-27-2019, 01:56 AM
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So if the flat top is wonky, would the opposite be true for the pop tops?
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Old 08-27-2019, 05:58 AM
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I’ve not encountered a pop top roc. I think rocs are one or the more consistent discs. Commonly have gradual dome, as they should, and rarely do you find one that flies differently.
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Old 08-27-2019, 06:39 AM
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IMO the big problem with the flat tops is they get squirrelier as they beat in so you can't cycle them; a beat flat top is a worthless turnover disc.
I threw them for 20 years before getting sponsored and learning the wonders of the M4. My experience was the exact opposite of this.

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Old 08-27-2019, 07:59 AM
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I just don’t like the feel of the flat tops as much. I do think they make great turnover and hyzerflip rocs though. I find them to be very predictable.
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Old 08-27-2019, 08:21 AM
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yes, flat top Rocs are flatter than the Sentinel photo you posted. In theory, Roc3s should be readily available flat top Rocs. In practice, Roc3s tend to have at least a slight dome. But that might be "flat enough" for your tastes. If you want flat tops because of the way they feel in your hand, you might want to consider holding a few Roc3s to see if they will work for you. James Conrad was tearing up Worlds and Iron Hill (Delaware Disc Golf Challenge) with a light purple Roc3. You can see how well it holds a turnover at his power. For the rest of us, the Roc3 will need some beating before it will turn like that. I only have one DX Roc3 and it started out noticeably less overstable than my Champs or Stars.

FWIW, I think regular Rancho Rocs with a mild dome are better all-around than flat top Rocs. But again, if it is a hand-feel thing... these might not be a viable candidate for you.
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Old 08-27-2019, 08:59 AM
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I love the feel of flat top glow KC rocs. They start off slightly more OS than other KC and DX rocs I've tried (which might have more to do with flashing than anything else) which I like a lot. I can mash on them with a little hyzer and they just go forever and finish like a roc every time. I've never thrown a midrange further than my flat top glow KC rocs.

DX flat tops, however, I don't care for. Three Putt mentioned them getting squirrely which is definitely my experience. The one I started using showed turn after a couple rounds, but still wanted to fade. It got more turn, but still had the fade. By the time I [happily] lost it, it was my least HSS mid, but still had LSS. I'm still confused by it.

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