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Old 09-04-2019, 06:47 PM
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the Diamond is like cheating. please don't tell anyone about it.
So is the Jade!
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Old 09-05-2019, 06:25 AM
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Thank you all for your input.

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I love light stuff, my entire bag was 150g (or less) for 8 years. Lighter weights do allow you to throw faster discs but my personal opinion is that you are better off learning how to throw the slower discs further. I know this doesnt help the immediate need for more distance but this is my advice.

I should note that my course is thickly wooded with trees so I never have to deal with wind. This might be why I like the lighter discs so much. People who regularly play windy courses will appreciate heavier discs.

Also, FWIW, I still carry at least one 150g putter now that Ive migrated back to a max weight bag. Light weight discs are great for scrambling when you can only flick your wrist but still need a disk to carry a decent distance.
My course is pretty wooded as well and some lighter weights might work for some of it.

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you can throw whatever you want
I CAN throw whatever I like. I could throw big rocks but that would cause me to throw out my back and I don't think my back would feel good hitting the chains!

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Also, light weight discs are not going to miraculously get you a substantial distance gain if your form is a bit off.
Throw a 150 class driver a little nose up into the wrong and you'll see things you never thought a disc could do and end up in places you never thought possible!

Light weight discs can help you slow down and clean up your form.
Light discs are easier to throw when your clean
Light discs can get you some extra distance, but you're not going from 275 to 400 because of weight.
Light discs are a challenge in the wind and have actually helped me to learn the wind.
Light discs are damn fun!

They're worth a shot. Make a 5-6 disc bag of 150 class and give it a shot for a while. If nothing else, you'll learn a lot.
Yeah, I have a 147g blizzard destroyer and that is what normally happens, LOL. Yes, my form needs work, I think I do a lot of strong arming instead of snap. My release is pretty smooth now, but i'm sure I still have some OAT left.

After reading all your thoughts, I think lights will work for me but I need to disc them down. But I should probably work out my snap on heavier stuff.

I have a destroyer and beast I might trade in for a control driver. After owning the Diamond, Jade was on my radar although it looks like they may have discontinued it.

I've seen not a lot of love for Blizzard but what other light plastics do you have experience with?

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Old 09-05-2019, 07:01 AM
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I've seen not a lot of love for Blizzard but what other light plastics do you have experience with?
I only have two: a Boss and a Destroyer. One is great, the other is meh. I think the specific run will determine how good they are. If you arent throwing far, the differences will be minimized.

FWIW...
Im throwing putters 300 and my distance drives are going over 400. My personal preference is to throw slower discs. When I carried my all 150g bag, I threw Eagle Xs for almost all driver shots (no need for Blizzard on these slower discs). The Boss rarely came out. Having said that, 90% of my throws were (and still are) with putters. I think that learning to throw light discs cleanly increased my distance and my love for putters.

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Old 09-05-2019, 07:04 AM
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After reading all your thoughts, I think lights will work for me but I need to disc them down. But I should probably work out my snap on heavier stuff.
I disagree (from my own experience). Nothing will slow you down faster than throwing a starter pack! The DX Aviar, Shark and Leopard really are a good place to start in light weight. Add a Star Eagle and I'd be good to go!
You're focusing too much on the ending "snap" and forgetting it starts from the ground up. Pick your favorite mid and putter, then buy one of each in 150class and start from there. They will show you how bad your OAT really is and help you clean it up.

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I've seen not a lot of love for Blizzard but what other light plastics do you have experience with?
I've had good luck with Star, Champion and DX.
Starlite has been OK, but I've had a few weird ones, and Blizzard I no longer bother with.
Try to avoid stuff with lots of bubbles.

Take it slow, I wouldn't buy anything faster than a speed 7, and a DX 155gr Teebird will go far!
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Old 09-05-2019, 07:34 AM
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I disagree (from my own experience). Nothing will slow you down faster than throwing a starter pack! The DX Aviar, Shark and Leopard really are a good place to start in light weight. Add a Star Eagle and I'd be good to go!
You're focusing too much on the ending "snap" and forgetting it starts from the ground up. Pick your favorite mid and putter, then buy one of each in 150class and start from there. They will show you how bad your OAT really is and help you clean it up.



I've had good luck with Star, Champion and DX.
Starlite has been OK, but I've had a few weird ones, and Blizzard I no longer bother with.
Try to avoid stuff with lots of bubbles.

Take it slow, I wouldn't buy anything faster than a speed 7, and a DX 155gr Teebird will go far!
Ok, I get that and it makes sense. I guess that is why I couldn't throw my 147g DX Beast a year ago when I started.
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:39 AM
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Ive got a mixed bag and have thrown plenty of blizzard plastic but it always beats in waaaaaay to quickly and had consistency issues from disc to disc of the same mold.

Now throwing Air plastic from Dd and Lat.
What I like about their Air plastic is the durability and weight. Opto or Lucid Air plastic is usually between 154g to 164g. While other manufacturers have skinneyed up the flight plate with regular weight plastic to get into the low 160g weights, inconsistencies with these runs as far as dome and PLH have been the main problem.

The Air plastic is able to achieve a consistent disc run to run without compromising quality. I think its because they are able to generate a flight plate thicknesses that keeps the disc consistent with regard to stability in the perfect weight of 158-162g.

I bag 2- Lucid Trespass Airs, 1 Explorer Air and 1 Maverick Air for big high turnovers uphill.
Im 52 years old and these help me with distance in general and with uphill shots.
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Old 09-05-2019, 11:47 AM
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pack it up boys, elmex just invalidated this whole. entire. forum.
thank you for giving me this much power

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Old 09-05-2019, 12:39 PM
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pack it up boys, elmex just invalidated this whole. entire. forum.
I disagree. He ALMOST invalidates it. The majority of the content of this website is made up of those who can't currently go out and throw anything because they are stuck at work and would rather WAY over-analyze things than think about the reality of employment.

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