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Old 06-08-2015, 11:30 PM
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Default Difference between a 1000 rated round and a 1000 rated player?

I have a couple of thoughts that I am going to try to pack into one thread. Here's hoping it has a theme that holds it together.

What I was originally going to express is my surprise that there has never yet been a female disc golfer with a rating over ~980, although there have been a number of 1000+ rated rounds thrown by women. So I started wondering what makes the difference between the skill set and talent to throw a 1000-rated round vs. throwing enough of them and better to achieve a 1000 rating. I don't know if I csn identify it, buf I think it's something different than just consistency. If that were all, we would already have had 1000-rated women, unless consistency is a talent that favors men, and I don't think it is. I also look at the top female players, and I see people who seem to have the raw talent to achieve a 1000 rating.

So what is it? I think a woman will eventually achieve a 1000 rating, but it may be a while yet. It seems far more likely than a woman making the roster on an MLB team, but maybe not more likely than a woman being able to compete in the PGA or vs. men in pro tennis. What is that special something that gets you from 975 to 1000, when you seem to already have the basic physical athletic talent to get there?
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Old 06-08-2015, 11:32 PM
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Power. Simple as that.
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Old 06-08-2015, 11:43 PM
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Isn't power something you either can or can't generate, which means a 1000+ round is something you either can or can't do? Or is the 1000 rating dependent on a level of power to throw 1050 rounds from time to time, which crosses a power threshold that merely a 1000 round doesn't?
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Isn't power something you either can or can't generate, which means a 1000+ round is something you either can or can't do? Or is the 1000 rating dependent on a level of power to throw 1050 rounds from time to time, which crosses a power threshold that merely a 1000 round doesn't?
You don't need power to throw SOME courses on the tour schedule +1000 because they are not that long. Fountain hills comes to mind, which (not coincidently) holds many of the single round ratings reconds. Many of the tour courses do require a huge arm to score well.
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I've thrown a couple 1000 rounds but I'm a 940 player, basically for me it's consistency and avoiding the putting yips that holds me back.

My first 1000 was at Rollin Ridge with only a Firebird, Drone, Cro and warlock. So you don't have to have power of you can place it all the time, I can only throw a FB about 375.
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Isn't power something you either can or can't generate, which means a 1000+ round is something you either can or can't do? Or is the 1000 rating dependent on a level of power to throw 1050 rounds from time to time, which crosses a power threshold that merely a 1000 round doesn't?
Players with all the same mental and hand/eye coordination skills, but one has more power...that person is going to be higher rated. It's really not that hard to figure out. The opportunity to be closer to the basket results in lower scores.
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Concesistancy IS related to power, but it's not a perfect correlation. There are plenty of AMS in the upper 900's with all the skills to compete at the highest levels but they can't do it every round.

I think their are two other big factors 1) not nearly as much competition. 2) not enough incentive to play disc golf full time, which goes back to one. Realistically right now it's not a very good career path for an extremely talented female player to play disc golf full time. Maybe as the sport continues to gain support and popularity it will make more sense, but right now it's just not there.
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It does seem that most of the tees the top women play on tour are designed for top male power. But consider if disc golfs most accurate woods playing female chose to only play tournament rounds on wooded courses that fit her distance capability...I could easily imagine a 1000 rated female player.
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Old 06-09-2015, 12:32 AM
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You don't need power to throw SOME courses on the tour schedule +1000 because they are not that long. Fountain hills comes to mind, which (not coincidently) holds many of the single round ratings reconds. Many of the tour courses do require a huge arm to score well.
That's the opposite of what happens at Fountain. That course has lots of long holes with OB, so the top players who can throw 400' hyzers accurately are able to open a wider gap between themselves and the people who have to flex something out or throw distance lines to have a chance on those longer holes.
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Old 06-09-2015, 12:49 AM
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A 1000-rated round by a less-than-1000 rated player is a result of good luck. The few tree hits and missed putts a non-1000 rated player would usually expect did NOT happen that round.
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