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Old 10-01-2012, 02:48 AM
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Years playing/experience: Getting close to 5 years, spotty limited play though
Right/left-handed/ambidextrous: right-handed
Throwing Style: RHBH; OH/flick for utility- can't for power due to limited shoulder motion
Golf Distance (avg/max*) for putter/mid/driver: Omega 200/250'; Roc 300/350'; OLF 400'; Quasar 430'+


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Age: 22
Sex: M
Injuries/handicaps?: Used to sidearm and overhead better, football and baseball injuries on top of loose shoulders say no more.

What do you like/dislike about your current bag?
I like my bag. It covers a lot of shots with not too many molds.

Specific areas of desired feedback:
Definitely like mold minimalism but I am not a fan of the gaps it seems to leave for me.

I wanted the Condor to cover a shot between my Roc and my Omegas, but it hasn't because it does not handle wind. I was thinking about something like an Aurora MS to fill the void. I'd like the disc here to be more understable than a Roc. Something easy to throw with minimal fade.

I also miss having a do it all disc like the Cyclone, but it just seemed too similar to my JLS. I was thinking something like a Gremlin or EXP to fill that void, something workable for out of stance throws. The JLS has a tendency to fly past the basket, while the Rocs may not reach it. I tend to want to throw a disc at its proper speed and get a lot of fade throwing softly.

If you see anything else that could be an issue, I'd value your opinion.


Bag:

Drivers (weight/plastic/model/(condition)/use):
Max
172 Q Quasar, (new) - Overstable distance
170 Q Quasar, (seasoned) - Straight to rolling distance

Distance
171 Q Orion LF, (new) - Stable to overstable control distance
170 Q Orion LF, (seasoned) - Stable control distance, straight, flicks
170 M Orion LF, (beat) - Understable control distance, limited rollers

Fairway
172 Star Eagle X, (new) - Overstable fairway and flicks
168 Q JLS, (seasoned) - Dead straight fairway
172 M JLS, (beat) - Understable fairway, get out of trouble utility disc

Mids:
178 FLX Drone, (seasoned) - Overstable where my Sentinel failed me
180 Glow Roc, (newish) - Stable workhorse
178 KC pro Roc, (beat) - Not as understable as I'd like
180 DX Condor, (seasoned) - Perfect for downhills and rollers

Putters:
175 S Omega AP, (seasoned) - Short drives, wooded approaches
175 Omega Driver, (seasoned) - Approaches and putts
175 Omega SS, (seasoned) - Putts and high risk approaches


Discs that are in and out:
170 Q Astra, (new) - May be too understable for my taste in max distance drivers
168 ESP Cyclone, (beat) - Great utility disc but seemed too close to beat JLS to remain useful
170 S Scorpius, (new) - Haven't thrown this one yet
175 KC Whippet X, (beat) - Great utility but beat out by the Drone for overstability
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Old 10-01-2012, 10:51 AM
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Distance
171 Q Orion LF, (new) - Stable to overstable control distance
170 Q Orion LF, (seasoned) - Stable control distance, straight, flicks
170 M Orion LF, (beat) - Understable control distance, limited rollers

Fairway
172 Star Eagle X, (new) - Overstable fairway and flicks
168 Q JLS, (seasoned) - Dead straight fairway
172 M JLS, (beat) - Understable fairway, get out of trouble utility disc
You might hate this idea, but I bet you could combine these categories. The distance potential between all of these molds is very small. You could get away with something like:
170 or 171 QOLF
168 QJLS
172 MJLS

and hang onto the rest as backups or replacements
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You might hate this idea, but I bet you could combine these categories. The distance potential between all of these molds is very small. You could get away with something like:
170 or 171 QOLF
168 QJLS
172 MJLS

and hang onto the rest as backups or replacements
I actually like that idea, my MOLF probably gets the least amount of throws out of my entire bag. In my head dropping the Eagle and the Molf and maybe one QOLF leaves a spot for an EXP-1, do you think that would still be overlapping?
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Old 10-01-2012, 03:26 PM
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In my head dropping the Eagle and the Molf and maybe one QOLF leaves a spot for an EXP-1, do you think that would still be overlapping?
I haven't thrown an EXP, but I've heard they are essentially a Banshee-L. I like having a meathook in the bag (Firebird for me). It depends on how your OLF flies- it may overlap.

If it were me, I'd grab something overstable in Z/Champ/Opto plastic thats dependable in heavy wind.
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Old 10-01-2012, 05:45 PM
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I haven't thrown an EXP, but I've heard they are essentially a Banshee-L. I like having a meathook in the bag (Firebird for me). It depends on how your OLF flies- it may overlap.

If it were me, I'd grab something overstable in Z/Champ/Opto plastic thats dependable in heavy wind.
I had been using a Z pred for that shot, and I lost it somehow field testing.

For now I am able to use my newest QOLF in the wind, or my newest Quasar. I do recognize that as a potential weakness.

What plastic is the comet you throw? I had an X comet that cracked and tried to replace it with the Z comet and they were night and day. The Z comet had to be thrown hard to reduce fade, where the X could be lightly tossed and have almost no fade.
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:29 AM
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I have a 175 Z that cooperates with me. It is 8/10.

You might like a Z around 170 or a heavier X
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I wanted to update to help keep track of the changes in my bag, and also to maybe see if anyone else has feedback.

Max
172 S Scorpius, (new) - Just plain max distance.

Fairway/Other drivers.
171 Q Orion LF, (new) - Stable to overstable control distance
170 Q Orion LF, (seasoned) - Stable control distance, straight, flicks
168 Q JLS, (seasoned) - Dead straight fairway
172 M JLS, (beat) - Understable fairway, get out of trouble utility disc

Mids:
174 D Gremlin, (new) - Not sure if this will last, wanted to try it out to bridge the JLS-Roc gap
178 FLX Drone, (seasoned) - Overstable where my Sentinel failed me
180 Glow Roc, (newish) - Stable workhorse
178 KC pro Roc, (beat) - Still not as understable as I'd like
175 Q Aurora MS, (seasoned) - Straight finishing shots, sometimes filling in for untrustworthy beat KC Roc
190 DX Condor, (seasoned) - Perfect for downhills and straight, effortless flight

Putters:
175 JK Aviar-X, (seasoned) - Short drives, wooded approaches
173 DX XD, (beat) - Putting, approaches within 50'
175 DX Aviar Classic (new) - Approaches where I'm afraid of an XD blowby
174 Omega Driver (seasoned) - Putting outside of 50'

The beat Roc, QMS and Condor definitely overlap a bit but somehow still stick in the bag. The Roc turns more while the QMS resists turn but they both finish straight, and the Condor just glides in a straight line. The beat Roc is just not trustworthy right now, it does not fly the same way every time. The Condor isn't as useful in the woods with the wide diameter.

The Gremlin is just a trial disc, I like it but I'm not sure it flies much farther than the Roc. If I can get it out between the Roc and JLS it will definitely have a place in my bag.

I probably need to work on getting some overstability in the bag. With this storm kicking up winds even in Atlanta, it has opened my eyes to the fact that I have no majorly overstable drivers. I'm thinking a Firebird and a Q Scorpius would do well to fight the wind.
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