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Old 04-16-2019, 08:27 AM
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My point to the player's suffering is that their brand depends on exposure and, frankly, popularity. Without coverage that people want to watch, they do suffer. It's not as if the McMahon or McBeth names are being forgotten, but even a small percentage of loss is still an undeserved detriment to the players.



That's simply not true. This event has been covered for years without DGPT's stellar media group.
Awesome. Can you provide links to the live coverage of Jonesboro pre-2017, I love old footage. I'm having trouble finding summary coverage too, with commentary.
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Old 04-16-2019, 08:43 AM
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Yea... but, that was before they split Worlds and the DGPT came around. Like I said above, I doubt he would have been on tour fulltime but I do think he would have been out there a couple times a year and especially at both Open and Masters worlds.
I'm still not sure your correct. The proof is in the pudding. If Climo wanted to pursue winning Worlds, well, he would be. He'd be in physical therapy and rehab for his hip and he'd be training with the fire described by Always Hyzer. He's not. Now, whether that's because of my notion that he did it all and is satisfied, or simply because chasing kids off his lawn doesn't allow him time to train, ie he's old, isn't something we can fully determine. Heck, it might even be that he is now a full time stamp collector. But that still leaves us with he's not doing it.
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Old 04-16-2019, 09:12 AM
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That's simply not true. This event has been covered for years without DGPT's stellar media group.
Jonesboro Open did not exist as an event, and certainly wasn't a course that many (any?) of the touring players played prior to its inclusion on the DGPT.

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Old 04-16-2019, 09:28 AM
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I didn't say pre-DGPT, I said pre-DGPT media group. Which is the failure which is not debated by any party.

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Old 04-16-2019, 09:44 AM
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I didn't say pre-DGPT, I said pre-DGPT media group. Which is the failure which is not debated by any party.
I would refute that DGPT media group is a failure.

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Old 04-16-2019, 10:03 AM
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I didn't say pre-DGPT, I said pre-DGPT media group. Which is the failure which is not debated by any party.
But then you ignored what I wrote. And you're not being completely honest, IMO. Jomez and smash weren't there in the first place with out DGPT. This was a local B tier. Steve liked the course and event and brought it to national prominence by including it in his tour. A tour that he paid Jomez, CCDG and Smash to cover.

Steve blew it going on his own. He's found out that Jomez, CCDG and Smash have a skill set that isn't easily duplicated. But that doesn't mean I get to ignore what Steve brought to the equation. If DGPT goes under, we, Jomez, CCDG and Smash all lose, period. Steve has been clear, he's not breaking even. Today, I resigned up for DGPT on Patreon. Stick, carrot.
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:04 AM
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I would refute that DGPT media group is a failure.
I reluctantly concur. And thanks for having the strength of character to write that. I didn't.
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:22 AM
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I reluctantly concur. And thanks for having the strength of character to write that. I didn't.
Lol.....not a popular opinion with a handful of vocal naysayers here, but I think that a pragmatic view of Dodge and his business venture is not that hard. He has accomplished in weeks much of what took CCDG or Jomez years to accomplish. Granted, much of it on the back of the tough lessons learned by the above.


Look, just because I like a free Butterfingers A LOT, I am not going to boycott free Baby Ruth's. I might hold out for a free Butterfingers, but I risk losing out on a candy bar altogether. Who loses? Me or the giver of free candy?

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Old 04-16-2019, 10:36 AM
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Look, just because I like a free Butterfingers A LOT, I am not going to boycott free Baby Ruth's. I might hold out for a free Butterfingers, but I risk losing out on a candy bar altogether. Who loses? Me or the giver of free candy?
I get your point and the only caveat that I will counter is, if I love free Butterfingers, but Baby Ruth's make me break out in hives, I'll either buy Butterfingers or find a different candy bar (or cookie).

So who loses? Both parties! I lose my free Butterfingers and the giver loses the interest of a future customer of his other packaged products.

How many "free" TV shows have you liked watching and then one day they just started sucking and you never went back? And when enough other viewers turn away, that show gets cancelled. So every body loses.
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I think it's more a free Butterfinger vs. a turd covered in a Baby Ruth wrapper

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