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Old 05-15-2019, 05:50 PM
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This came to my mind during the par debates, and it applies here: I've come to accept that there are players so far ahead of everyone else that there is nothing we can do to narrow that gap nor limit those super players (McBeth, McMahon, Lizotte, etc.). Any course built to challenge them will simply be too much for the vast majority of other players (including pros), and any course that is fair for most will be inadequate to truly challenge the superstars.

So there's no reason to limit the equipment beyond what's been done, because it simply will not matter. And TPTB will have to decide what they want and who'll they will cater to with regard to courses.
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Old 05-15-2019, 05:51 PM
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I would like to see more longer tighter wooded courses. I think that keeping the current rim width is good. As the rim width increases the difficulty in controlling the disc gets harder so if we limit the rim width of discs smaller then courses would need to lose a lot of the change in angle required to navigate them. I also think that until disc golf is big enough to afford nice land to make these large wooded courses too really challenge pros, we will just need to settle for what we have. I would love a course with the final scores ending up like they did at the SFO this las week but the course be completely in the woods.

More emphasis must be put on pros ability to hit gaps and flight lines than just distance placement or accuracy. The best of both worlds would challenge distance and accuracy but that course would also be pretty giant. 99% of people would hate to play it so it would need multiple tees and much more land than parks are willing to give up.

Keep the rules how they are and figure out how to have disc golf make more money.
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Old 05-15-2019, 06:14 PM
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IMO we would be better off if rim width had been limited to t-bird or so but it is too late to put the cat back in the bag at this point.

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Old 05-15-2019, 06:42 PM
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IMO we would be better off if rim width had been limited to t-bird or so but it is too late to put the cat back in the bag at this point.
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Old 05-15-2019, 06:43 PM
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IMO we would be better off if rim width had been limited to t-bird or so but it is too late to put the cat back in the bag at this point.

Why is it too late? This sport is still in relative infancy. People are still debating the design of targets, rules and par. I don’t think it would hurt the market in any significant way as long as you provide ample advance notice. Speed eight, or whatever is set, would just become the new norm. The collectors would eat it up.

We may be beginning to see the limits of distance under the current regulations but you have to leave room for innovation yet unseen. I am confident that, at the least, there will be a significant improvement in consistency of flight and speed sensitivity.

I have no interest in getting political but you could compare this conversation to the argument that, when they wrote the second amendment they were thinking about muskets not missiles. Yes, this is different but right or wrong, they simply didn’t understand where it might go. If it isn’t written in stone should we act as if it is?

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Old 05-15-2019, 07:19 PM
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Unfortunately the PDGA no longer publishes their approved disc list with the specs such as rim width, so I can't do an easy search of how many discs such a change would make obsolete (and speed 8 is defined as??), but I would guess it's got to be better than 35-40% of most manufacturers' lineup.

Innova's website lists what I presume are their currently in production models. They consist of 30 models they classify as speed 9 or faster out of 84 total (35.7%). The trilogy brands lists 55 discs speed 9 or faster out of 125 models (44%). Discraft has 18 discs speed 9 or higher out of 53 active models (34%).

So that's a fair chunk of what manufacturers are selling right now, and I don't think it's going out on a limb to say that some of those are their biggest sellers. There would ABSOLUTELY be a huge hit to their bottom line to force those discs out. I mean, what do they do with the obsolete inventory?
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Old 05-15-2019, 07:30 PM
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We run a putter only tournament on July 4th. Nothing stopping folks from running a Speed Limit event. If everyone decided it was better it could catch on on tour. (Not going to happen but..)

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There was in the 2000's during the Bigger rim speed wars when the PDGA made a with max was talk at PDGA making all molds that had the width of the ORC and shorter, more due to the safety of players on the course and in tournaments getting hit with a disc that needs a ton of power/speed to be thrown to have the right flight path. A speed limit tournament of say nothing above a 9 speed would only take a Destroyer mold out of my bag as 9 speed for newer brands and or disc is where they draw the line on discs being fairway to then drivers on the disc. I would then have to get a Thunderbird to use as my disc that flies like a Destroyer in that respect for wind driving shots.

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Old 05-15-2019, 07:41 PM
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I remember when the orc, beast and such came out a lot of people were like “WHOA, this is getting out of hand“.

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I would like to see par eliminated all togther and score be the thing that you are judged on solely. The other is see courses that are a mix of different shots and not just the same thing or having to make a Pray and Throw woods course to have scores be more equal, just do not make the few true open shots long bombers only as then you are then catering to the pro player only.
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