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There are a lot of threads about Wizards out there and I've searched several and read a fair amount. I still think my question(s) deserve a post though, as I'm hoping to get some help specific to my situation...

As background, I'm currently putting KC Pro Aviars and I don't have any huge complaints about them, I'm mostly just curious to try swapping out Wizards to see if I like them better. I've really only putted with Pro or KC Pro Aviars...ever.

I like KC Pro because its stiff, and I like slightly grippier feel of Pro plastic (I've got 1 first run Pro Aviar left of a stack). I don't like the Pro because the flight plate flexes when I hold it up flat. This could be something I learn to deal with though, since I'm finding I dislike how slick the KC Pro is nearly as much as I like the rigidity.

So, my first question is plastic type. I'd ideally like something firm and grippy, but understand that this isn't always a possibility. I'm thinking Eraser or Organic is the right way to go. Any advise?

Second and maybe most important (because person preference on "feel" is kind of an all over the place topic) what's the best way to get say 5 or so of the "same" disc... weight, plastic, color, etc.? I tried infinite discs but can't seem find multiples in colors I like. The gateway website does have a wholesale purchase form, but does that apply to a non-vendor like myself? Should I just email Gateway and start down that route or does anyone have any guidance from experience they could share?

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If you like firm and grippy pure white or fossil is probably the best bet. Some runs of special blend are almost that firm and super grippy.

Welcome to wizards, you will have more choices than any other putter on the market and can find a plastic blend thats perfect.
When you find it buy 10 cause you never know what the next run will be like.

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Thats not an entirely fair post, Dom has done a lot with the factory end and consistency between runs of popular plastics has been pretty good.

I would definately start with pure white. For a grippy/chalky-ish stiff wizard.

Big thing to look for, especially driving wizards is a higher shoulder.

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To get 5 matching you can buy straight from gateway. You can tell them what you want and they can help find a good blend.

Some runs of eraser could really fit the bill for you, but some were pretty soft and others kinda smooth

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Organic and Eraser (like most of their blends) both have been run in different flexibilities so you can't guarantee that you're going to get firm blends. Is there something you'd like from Aviars that you're not getting currently? Wizards tend to not glide as much so you could find yourself hitting cage more than chains.

I think the best combo of firm and grippy that I've tried is RDG's Fossil. I haven't bought one since the first couple runs so someone else may be able to help with the current run's characteristics. If firm is your main criteria, the Pure White blend should be sufficient.

And Wizards are best bought in pairs (at least).

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To get 5 matching you can buy straight from gateway. You can tell them what you want and they can help find a good blend.

Some runs of eraser could really fit the bill for you, but some were pretty soft and others kinda smooth

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So because I'm impatient, do you think it would be better to start with a few different options and test them out before buying multiples, or do my research and just go with a (short) stack right away? I just bought a basket and my aviars are different weights which is starting to annoy me.

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Your best bet is to head to a store that sells them and fondle every single plastic blend they have. Pure Whites and firms sound like they'd be up your alley. If you want a little less hard check out the special blends, softs and erasers.

But like has been mentioned before, sometimes the blends of plastic change in firmness. However, it doesn't seem to affect the flight much if at all. Unless of course you get into the premium plastic blends, I have no experience there.



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Organic and Eraser (like most of their blends) both have been run in different flexibilities so you can't guarantee that you're going to get firm blends. Is there something you'd like from Aviars that you're not getting currently? Wizards tend to not glide as much so you could find yourself hitting cage more than chains.

I think the best combo of firm and grippy that I've tried is RDG's Fossil. I haven't bought one since the first couple runs so someone else may be able to help with the current run's characteristics. If firm is your main criteria, the Pure White blend should be sufficient.

And Wizards are best bought in pairs (at least).
There isn't anything glaring about aviars, it's more like the "grass is greener" syndrome.. Or just curiosity would be a better way to put it. As far as glide though, I was hoping Wizards had a bit more if anything? For circle-ish puts, glide is hard to compare between discs I think.
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Wizards carry further on drives for me, low speeds aviars do seem to stay in the air better. Its a negligible difference to me

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Your best bet is to head to a store that sells them and fondle every single plastic blend they have. Pure Whites and firms sound like they'd be up your alley. If you want a little less hard check out the special blends, softs and erasers.

But like has been mentioned before, sometimes the blends of plastic change in firmness. However, it doesn't seem to affect the flight much if at all. Unless of course you get into the premium plastic blends, I have no experience there.

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You're right, finding a store would be the best way to go. There aren't any near me though so it would require a special trip & time. Knowing myself, I've accepted that I'll buy a few different types before I make it to a store, as bad as it sounds.

I do like that even with variation in plastic the flight characteristics are consistent... another reason for my curiosity. For most discs you can't even trust flight characteristics in the same batch.
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