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Old 06-26-2013, 02:06 PM
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Yes, there are many variables, and it will never be perfect. But other than striving to do that, I don't see a purpose for par at all.

That is stroke count. Par is not needed for that. I am just saying what par aims to do, because if it doesn't give some level of meaningful comparison between different courses it is useless other than as a scoring shorthand.
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Old 06-26-2013, 02:08 PM
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What's the par on this thread?



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Old 06-26-2013, 02:10 PM
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Yep...they even each other out.
Until par two are allowed, its the only was to balance things out.
Locals shoot double digits down even with all 3's....it looks like a joke.
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Old 06-26-2013, 02:13 PM
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Yep...they even each other out.
Until par two are allowed, its the only was to balance things out.
Locals shoot double digits down even with all 3's....it looks like a joke.
Until courses with holes easy enough to call them par 2s are deconstructed and redesigned.
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Old 06-26-2013, 02:17 PM
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Until courses with holes easy enough to call them par 2s are deconstructed and redesigned.
On many of those holes, the only way you're going to do that is plant a snotload of trees and wait about 15 years from them to grow, or put scads of artificial OB around them.
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Old 06-26-2013, 02:18 PM
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it's funny how many times people can be shown a rule in the rulebook that makes par matter and then they turn around and say it doesnt.

furthermore, i really don't understand how some of you can argue that the score is more informative and descriptive than your score in relation to par.

par just helps describe how you played in relation to a course, it's a descriptive tool. i don't think i've ever seen people freak out so much about something that's simply used as a tool to describe and explain something better.

if you don't care what par is then don't care, why the hell do you have to come on the internet and tell people they should also not care? score your round any way you want, i score mine based on three's most of the time but i still see the benefit of par.
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On many of those holes, the only way you're going to do that is plant a snotload of trees and wait about 15 years from them to grow, or put scads of artificial OB around them.
Plant a bunch of bamboo, wait a month. Done.
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Old 06-26-2013, 04:32 PM
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Until courses with holes easy enough to call them par 2s are deconstructed and redesigned.
Im not talking old school courses; on modern courses the majority of holes are 2'd by good players. Our standard should be something to strive for.
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On many of those holes, the only way you're going to do that is plant a snotload of trees and wait about 15 years from them to grow, or put scads of artificial OB around them.
I'm talking redesign. New layout.
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Old 06-26-2013, 04:55 PM
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I am just saying it isn't needed to compare scores in the same round. You would just be referring to your stroke count, and par is meaningless in the scope of one course other than as scoring shorthand.
It would be handy, though. What if we were in different pools? Or on a shotgun start you had just finished the 9 difficult holes, and I have just finished the 9 easy holes?
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