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Old 06-24-2013, 11:36 PM
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I'm at Dick's all the time for my kids sports gear and such. So I occasionally browse the disc selection. I found a 12X flat Firebird. It's the only one I have ever seen there. It's always Aviars, Sharks and Grooves. It's been over a year I always check hoping to find another, never happens, just more Groove selection, LOL.
I've never seen a mold I throw in Dick's. Even with my evolving bag, I've not seen a mold I threw in the last 3 years.
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Old 06-25-2013, 06:53 AM
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As for the so called master plumbers, electricians, ect... I'm not sure that they are hanging out at the depot. The best in the trade, for one, don't shop there.
Are you saying that master craftsman have some secret hardware store they all go to for nails and pipe?

... you're probably right, it's called Lowe's.
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Old 06-25-2013, 08:30 AM
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Are you saying that master craftsman have some secret hardware store they all go to for nails and pipe?

... you're probably right, it's called Lowe's.
I hate Lowes. when i was in the service we had all their crappy tools and the **** broke ALL THE TIME. ever since then I havent stepped in there.
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:14 AM
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I hate it when disc golfers think they know about shoes.
Just because youve owned one pr of hiking shoes and they fit better then your poorly fitted high school basketball shoes does not make you an expert.
Well, I have been wearing and buying shoes for 50 years, maybe not an expert, but I sure figure most of this rocket science out.
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Old 06-25-2013, 11:06 AM
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^^^From the looks of a lot of the chuckers on the course, most disc golfers aren't rocket scientists anyways.
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Old 06-26-2013, 02:42 PM
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Well, I have been wearing and buying shoes for 50 years, maybe not an expert, but I sure figure most of this rocket science out.
My point is, when someone ask what the BEST dg shoe is, having worn one or two of them doesnt qualify one to give the answer.
Imo, most here are no better than the kid at dicks.
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Old 06-26-2013, 02:58 PM
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My point is, when someone ask what the BEST dg shoe is, having worn one or two of them doesnt qualify one to give the answer.
Imo, most here are no better than the kid at dicks.
Yeah, but most here aren't trying to sell something based on sales approach bravado either. They're simply stating what has worked for them.

That and they are answering a question that was actually asked. I can't say the same about salespeople in various stores I've shopped in.
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Old 06-26-2013, 03:34 PM
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On the subject of retail wage slaves not knowing anything about what they're selling -- we are partially to blame for that. Once upon a time, retail salespeople were on commission, and they knew a lot about everything. They could tell you why that TV on the end is $300 more than the one you want to buy. They could tell you why something doesn't work on the washer you just bought from them. They knew how to hook up the stuff you bought, and they'd do it for you if it kept you from returning it (chargebacks were an absolute pain).

But we didn't like their "high-pressure" sales pitches (usually for very good reasons). We didn't like the idea that someone was getting paid based on what they sold me, so the model changed. They started hiring people for just over minimum wage, but they'd still train them on product knowledge (I got paid to do this for Lowe's about fifteen years ago -- pretty good gig!). But people making just over minimum wage don't care about product knowledge -- they're clerks, not salespeople. Retailers realized that the money they were spending on product training wasn't getting them any return, so they stopped.

So now rather than informed salespeople who are trying to sell you something, we've got wage slaves who don't even know where to find the bathrooms in their store.
Ding Ding Ding

Did you write a thesis on this? It's kind of refreshing when I go to a specialty store (where I REALLY want the salesman's help) and they are SUPER knowledgeable. I don't expect anything but a teenager who might know where the bathroom is and can clean up puke when I go to a big box store.

I've never looked for discs at Dick's, but I run into this same thing at REI - Grooves, Sharks, Aviars, Wraiths. What bugs me a little is Innova HAS to be pushing these grooves on these stores, knowing no one wants them!

What kind of BS move is that to take your un-sellable stock and give it to noobs? Love you Dave but that one makes me scratch my head.
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Old 06-26-2013, 04:23 PM
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Yeah, but most here aren't trying to sell something based on sales approach bravado either. They're simply stating what has worked for them.

That and they are answering a question that was actually asked. I can't say the same about salespeople in various stores I've shopped in.
Ill give you that
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I know it is hard for some people to accept, but given the option of 1000 discs to choose from some people still willingly choose grooves based on the name and numbers. It is not some Innova conspiracy to force them on an unwitting public.
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