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Old 02-15-2019, 02:19 PM
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lol just going off the video up there^ but even before, i had a feeling it would be similar based on the numbers too. bee tribs on fb is a dealer/sponsored player of theirs and had 200 or so that people preordered. in the lets kastaplast group on fb,people are posting where available.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:57 PM
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For my throwing technique Göte is like slower Warship. It is definately more stable than I thought. But the glide is impressive. I would rate it 4/6/0/2. Im not yet sure if it stays in the bag, the rim is little too deep for me. Beat in these things could be pretty awesome!
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:25 PM
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A bit strange that kastaplast only have 3 midrange moulds and they are all OS
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:09 PM
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For my throwing technique Göte is like slower Warship. It is definately more stable than I thought. But the glide is impressive. I would rate it 4/6/0/2. Im not yet sure if it stays in the bag, the rim is little too deep for me. Beat in these things could be pretty awesome!
I've only thrown a friend's VIP Warship a handful of times, but watching him throw it a good amount I'd say that's probably a good comparison.

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I don't think I'd classy this as OS, definitely stable. Mine was flying pretty true to the numbers when I threw it about ~10 times this afternoon, and was easy to turnover when I was throwing anhyzer. It definitely held lines. Slightly sensitive to OAT like the Comet (which I like), but didn't burn out like my old-ESP Comet. I'm loving it so far. Unfortunately probably won't get to play for the next week or two with weather, so I'm looking forward to reading about everyone's testing!
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Old 02-19-2019, 11:36 PM
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I dont find any of Kastaplast mids OS. The kaxe is stable like a roc or teebird, the Z is stable to slightly understable. I dont bag a Z cause it really isnt enough different than the regular kaxe, both straight with a slight fade.

and the gote is neutral. Its definately going in the bag.

I only got 10 throws in with mine before dark.
If a comet is on the flippy side of perfectly neutral the gote is the stable side of neutral. It held every line I put it on. Slight flip up on a hard thrown hyzer, slight fade on a 70% thrown flat shot.
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Old 02-20-2019, 12:26 AM
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Wolf and Dirty I always enjoy reading what you have to say, but the Kaxe is not a mid.

Where do we draw the line? I think I was talking at SD in another thread but how is a 1.5 rim Kaxe[Z] a mid yet a 1.6 Leopard or JLS is a fairway? Last I checked a 1.3 Buzzz is a fast mid. Nevermind typing, here's what I'm referring to:

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[regarding putters] I only went the mid route for the MVP discs because I find MVP mids like the Axis and Tangent because I found them to be fast-putter/slow-mid like, as opposed to many mids that are more glidey and faster. I posted before that when I take an all-MVP/Axiom bag to the course, I use their mids where I would throw Innova/Trilogy putt/approach discs.
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Never thrown a Tangent.

Axis is a FAST mid. Buzzz is a fast mid. They're relatively interchangeable and the differences in design and feel (aside from dat gyro) are negligible. The capability of being able to power down an Axis is irrelevant. The Squall is also 1.3 rim width and is considered a tweener, the Kaxe is 1.5 and is wrongfully called a mid from time to time, the Truth is 1.5, etc etc. How is a 1.5 Truth less like a 1.6 Leopard and more like a 1.2 Stingray? The Spider is also 1.3 but is a slower mid by design (more narrow diameter helps this compared to the wide Buzzz and Axis, as well as wing shape and bead).

All this "anything that isn't a Warship or Truth is slow" is nonsense.

Regardless, I am curious to throw one of these and LOVE Kastaplastic.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:39 AM
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People can tell me if I am off base, but it seems to me that a growing number of new players' views about midranges may now be different than what was the norm 10 years ago.

Midranges, such as the Innova Roc, have for years been the workhorses in players bags, and you still see players like Philo Brathwaite throwing it to great success. But, putters have now become the workhorses in many player's bags. It now seems to be more common for players to throw putters in situations where one would once have chosen a midrange. We can now watch players like James Conrad, who chooses to throw a JK Pro Aviar X on just about anything inside of 350 feet.

If a person follows this model of choosing to throw putters, it may cause a change in how they view their midranges. They may not look to speed 4 and 5 discs, thinking that they don't find enough difference between those and their throwing putters to convince them to choose the 4/5 disc. But, if a disc were a bit faster, then they could see the justification for throwing it instead of the putter. So, maybe a speed 6 disc becomes the new "midrange" for them; the disc that they move up to from a putter.

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Old 02-20-2019, 09:49 AM
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People can tell me if I am off base, but it seems to me that a growing number of new players' views about midranges may now be different than what was the norm 10 years ago.

Midranges, such as the Innova Roc, have for years been the workhorses in players bags, and you still see players like Philo Brathwaite throwing it to great success. But, putters have now become the workhorses in many player's bags. It now seems to be more common for players to throw putters in situations where one would once have chosen a midrange. We can now watch players like James Conrad, who chooses to throw a JK Pro Aviar X on just about anything inside of 350 feet.

If a person follows this model of choosing to throw putters, it may cause a change in how they view their midranges. They may not look to speed 4 and 5 discs, thinking that they don't find enough difference between those and their throwing putters to convince them to choose the 4/5 disc. But, if a disc were a bit faster, then they could see the justification for throwing it instead of the putter. So, maybe a speed 6 disc becomes the new "midrange" for them; the disc that they move up to from a putter.
Totally agree. Once upon a time, the midrange was just that... the "mid"-range, the middle speed disc. Then higher and higher speed drivers came along, and what once was distance drivers became fairway drivers.

It's all good, and ya gotta love the choices we have today.

Then faster variants of mids showed up (Roc3, etc.). And the approach disc/fast putter showed up. While the lines are blurred somewhat, a 'putter' such as the Colt or Stud is really filling the gap between the new mids and the slow putters..

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Old 02-20-2019, 09:43 PM
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^Your point is generally correct but the Destroyer class has been out for a long time (approved in '07). Disc rims haven't gotten wider aside from the occasional Rampage etc. which was approved in 2011. Warship is '11 and Truth is '13.

I get that the Aviar used to be the fastest disc on the market. I get that times change in the beveled edge disc world. When the Leopard came out (2001) it was classified as "long range driver" and shifted to "fairway driver" just like the Banshee (1.8 rim) went from "distance driver" to "fairway driver" - that's cool. My arguement is if the Kaxe came out even 10 years ago it would have been called a fairway, let alone 18 years ago.


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Wolf and Dirty I always enjoy reading what you have to say, but the Kaxe is not a mid.

Where do we draw the line? I think I was talking at SD in another thread but how is a 1.5 rim Kaxe[Z] a mid yet a 1.6 Leopard or JLS is a fairway? Last I checked a 1.3 Buzzz is a fast mid.

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Regardless, I am curious to throw one of these and LOVE Kastaplastic.
Is a Squall a mid? The Archer? The Kaxe feels and flies, like it belongs with them.

I use those discs like hybrid irons in regular golf... but disc golfers use the term hybrid differently.

They are longer than a classic mid but they have lower cruise speeds than a fairway. To me, this is what a true hybrid is, not a speed 10 disc. If I call it a hybrid, it will confuse people even more.

I am still going with mid, because that's closer to how I use it... and it will confuse people less than calling it a hybrid.

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