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Old 03-12-2020, 05:06 PM
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^^^^ reading this makes me think I have some sort of freak. My Undertaker (it's still brand new practically) flies much closer to a predator, and I cant get it straight at all.


For reference, I can throw my newer ESP Forces flat and about 330-360ft, and throw my flippy ones with turn and fade to about 400.
Is it a first run? Or maybe a glow z? Those are way more overstable than stock runs.
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Old 03-12-2020, 05:24 PM
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Is it a first run? Or maybe a glow z? Those are way more overstable than stock runs.
What Vic said.

I bag a FR (couple seasons old and still doesn’t turn) for hyzers, baby flexes, etc; A regular Z for straight fairway drives; and a worn in ESP for hyzer flips that fight out at low speed.

I also have a FR Z that is very flat and very overstable. Not in the bag now, but glad it’s on the shelf. That said, even my FRs with a little dome are more OS than the production Zs.

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Old 03-12-2020, 05:29 PM
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Is it a first run? Or maybe a glow z? Those are way more overstable than stock runs.
Neither. Im very surprised how stable it is. Maybe Ill get a picture of the rim/plh and post it
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Old 04-03-2020, 09:16 PM
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Well this is exciting...just took my Cryztal Sparkle Undertaker out to the field to test against a stock Z line acquired earlier this month.

On a mild hyzer into a 10 mph headwind it flew with *significantly* more stability than the Z with no noticable turn all. At home the PLH confirmed what the flight demonstrated.

I think this is gonna be a popular run =)
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Old 04-03-2020, 11:59 PM
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Interesting. I also just picked up a Cryztal Taker. I have a brand new Z I've yet to throw too. I like the feel of the Cryzstal. Good to hear they came out pretty beefy.
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that is quite a distinct difference in PLH. More so than the difference between my 1R to regular Z. Gannon undertakers seem to be right about in line with 1R, and a step higher than normal Z
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that is quite a distinct difference in PLH. More so than the difference between my 1R to regular Z. Gannon undertakers seem to be right about in line with 1R, and a step higher than normal Z
I was super excited about picking one of those up, it's very disappointing that the release will be delayed.
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How's the top on the Cryztal sparkle? Is it super flat or puddled, or does it retain a mild dome? (Personally I'm hoping for some mild dome...)
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