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After playing in a tournament this weekend and beating out 90% of an 80 player field, I did not even double my entrance fee. To say the least I was fairly disappointed. I did a little math and close to a 1/4 of the buy-in was already lost in fee's and taxes. I think disc golf needs a new approach to the return of investment for the players.

I understand no one is in the sport to get rich, but it would be nice if less fee's and taxes were involved. Maybe private "A-tier" tournaments is the way to go
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:17 PM
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After playing in a tournament this weekend and beating out 90% of an 80 player field, I did not even double my entrance fee. To say the least I was fairly disappointed. I did a little math and close to a 1/4 of the buy-in was already lost in fee's and taxes. I think disc golf needs a new approach to the return of investment for the players.

I understand no one is in the sport to get rich, but it would be nice if less fee's and taxes were involved. Maybe private "A-tier" tournaments is the way to go
Payout is a return on investment for some players but not all. If you really want to focus on return on investment, players packs is the way to do it.

Don't think of it as a buy-in. It's an entrance fee to cover the costs of running a tournament (which includes the prizes, which often come in the form of payouts).
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:44 PM
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The OP is exactly part of the problem and this "sense of entitlement" we often discuss here. OP seems to place no value on the actual golf that they got to play or the services of the TD and tournament staff in creating an event for the OP to play in. Instead its about how much more money they deserved for their "win".

I like winning money too, but if you are looking for a "return on investment" you are in the wrong sport. LOL.
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:45 PM
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top 8 in a 80 person field! that seems really low.

i thought most people liked the flat payout but doesn't pdga have a spreadsheet.
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:49 PM
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It all depends on associated costs. Some areas are able to run really low cost tourneys with juicy payouts, others arent. No big deal. Just win the next one!
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If you want the payout to improve. Contact the TD and volunteer to help drum up sponsorship for the event. Playing for each other's entry fees rarely gives good payouts after all the necessary costs of running an event are taken out.

I've run dozens of sanctioned events, including a few A-Tiers. Player's often times don't know all the costs that go into making an event happen. It's not their fault as players, they just don't know. If you are unhappy with something, grow a pair of balls and respectfully ask the TD directly what the situation is. Chances are he/she is working their butts off for little or no compensation, while you are getting paid to throw frisbees.

More sponsors=More payout. You want more money, help your TD get more sponsors.
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top 8 in a 80 person field! that seems really low.

i thought most people liked the flat payout but doesn't pdga have a spreadsheet.
The PDGA does have a spreadsheet, however following it is not required. What *is* required is the range of depth of field payed out to (e.g. 45%), and the amount of net entry fees (gross entry cost minus per-player PDGA fees and other fees) that must go to payouts (based on the tier of the event, e.g. 85% for a C-tier, 100% for a B-tier, etc.).

Theoretically, you could design an event where first place got the vast majority of the total payout for the division.. you'd probably just want to make sure all players understood your payout scheme in advance of the event, though, to avoid complaints.

To me, it sounds like any/all of the following were the case: A). the cost of the event for that division was very low, B). the fees charged to rent the course/property were very high, or C). players packs and/or trophies were very expensive (at retail value).
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So 7 people beat you and you want double your money back?

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The OP is exactly part of the problem and this "sense of entitlement" we often discuss here. OP seems to place no value on the actual golf that they got to play or the services of the TD and tournament staff in creating an event for the OP to play in. Instead its about how much more money they deserved for their "win".

I like winning money too, but if you are looking for a "return on investment" you are in the wrong sport. LOL.
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So 7 people beat you and you want double your money back?

see what I mean?
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