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View Poll Results: Which of these best describes Hole 18 at the Utah Open?
A par 2 where 38% of throws are errors, and 1% of throws are hero throws. 6 25.00%
A par 3 where 24% of throws are errors, and 33% of throws are hero throws. 16 66.67%
A par 4 where 16% of throws are hero throws, and 23% are double heroes. 1 4.17%
A par 5 where 37% of throws are hero throws, and 21% are double heroes. 0 0%
A par 6 where 16% of throws are hero throws, and 62% are double heroes. 1 4.17%
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Old 02-09-2017, 01:30 PM
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What about a "golden" number for par on an 18-hole course? For example, ball golf uses 72 which doesn't necessarily translate to disc golf. I've played a few par 72 courses like Idlewild and The Black Course. While they are both fantastic courses, they are definitely nowhere near newb-friendly. I've heard many designers argue that a number in the low 60's is ideal for an 18-hole disc golf course.
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Old 02-09-2017, 01:43 PM
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No matter how hard you hit that horse, your disc ain't going any farther.

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Old 02-09-2017, 02:08 PM
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I really liked it when the "What is Par" thread was just closed. Maybe lightning will strike twice.

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Old 02-09-2017, 02:37 PM
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I think the biggest discussion point is "to the green +1 shot" vs "to the green +2 shots".

The +2 shot crowd does not want par 2s and the +1 shot crowd does not want the tournament results to be like -50 to -70.

I dont care, i count throws. I find it especially ridiculous when somebody asks about par while we are playing safari-skins.
I had never heard anyone espouse the "to the green +1 throw" theory until a few days ago. I don't of anyone (other than those who come onto a par talk thread to claim they don't care about par) who even acknowledges it.
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Old 02-09-2017, 02:40 PM
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More like "To the green + 1.3 throws" but who's counting.

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Old 02-09-2017, 02:47 PM
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Kinda feels like threads discussing Par are more suited for the Watercooler section. Par and politics... the end result of an online discussion is about the same for both.

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Old 02-09-2017, 03:21 PM
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If you want to talk about Par in relation to the Pro Side of the game, then you need to acknowledge the fact that our pros currently feel they should be able to birdie every hole.

If you can fix that attitude, then I think it would help quite a bit.

You could then say, that easy Par 4 is actually a hard Par 3, and shooting par on that particular hole is a good thing.

I think it would be easier to digest that, then to try and push the Par 2 idea.

With that said, I understand that a lot of courses out there do have very easy Par 3's.
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Par 2's are crazy. No way around it. You can only birdie if you ace it? Craziness. I feel much better about easy and hard par 3's than par 2's. Not all pars of the same number have to be equal.

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How do you birdie Par 2 miniature golf holes without an ace? The fear with Par 2s seems to be that disc golf would then be seen as too easy or an inferior form of golf. However, consider that miniature golf has been much more financially successful for many course owners (Putt Putt franchisees, for example) than disc golf has yet to be for most pay-to-play facilities.
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