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Old 06-18-2019, 08:11 PM
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Yeah I would say if at all possible, feel them up before buying. Of talk directly to a person that can feel them up for you and describe them and you can ask more questions. Stiff erasers are indeed superb if you can find them.

I dont like floppy putters and thus have tried to steer away from SSSS at least, but even in SSS there are some pretty darn stiff ones that I have grown to like.

I have 20 or so Wizards and still not sure what the "high shoulder" means...
Some of the stiffer plastics that are normally stiff like Pure white or the Medium/Firm the shoulder can be lower then on other plastic. The disc then has lower glide and more speed to the point the mold is like an approach disc.
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Old 06-19-2019, 07:12 AM
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It's all subjective stuff, but for me the low shouldered ones were longer. If I had to call it something, I'd say the high shouldered ones lack some glide. I didn't find one to be more or less stable than the other that I recall really.

I used the high shouldered ones as putting putters and I didn't notice any difference in them, I just figured I had them and they were no worse for putting than the low shouldered ones so why not?

Now my shoulder is all fubar and they all fly more or less the same, which is another way of saying I can't really get any of them to fly like I used to.
This. The low shouldered ones fly/penetrate better, so they glide a bit further. That's why I prefer these for driving.

High shouldered ones glide a bit less, so I prefer them for putting, since if I miss, I don't want them gliding / going waaaaay past the basket.

No difference in stability for me.

It's just my preference, but hope this helps.

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Old 06-19-2019, 09:09 AM
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I think you'd dig the red Firm Nikko Wizards.

I've also found swirly gray OG to be about what you're looking for, but from what I felt up at GGGT, the thumb-on-flightplate feeling varies a little between stiff and slightly more flex than I'd personally want.

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Old 06-19-2019, 10:21 AM
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For me, I can grip the low shouldered ones a little better for driving. The high shouldered ones feel deeper in the hand. But to me that's a plus on a putting putter. I like the float/slower speed for putting.

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Old 06-19-2019, 10:40 AM
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When I was young, single and had disposable income I lived in an apartment just South of Dorsett & McKelvey. If that was me today I'd own 200 Wizards. It's waaayyy too easy to pick out a stack there.
My wizard stack is respectable. My voodoo stack is probably more impressive just because I keep catching those swirly runs. But my warlock stack is just ok, and I only have like 4 magics. I have a whole gateway bag that I sometimes pull out in the offseason. That diamond assassin is a good disc.
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Old 06-19-2019, 11:36 PM
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This. The low shouldered ones fly/penetrate better, so they glide a bit further. That's why I prefer these for driving.

High shouldered ones glide a bit less, so I prefer them for putting, since if I miss, I don't want them gliding / going waaaaay past the basket.

No difference in stability for me.

It's just my preference, but hope this helps.
Yeah that is why I had at one point a Wizard that was made to have a low shoulder and was an approach putter specifically on the stamp. I used the Wizard as a long long approach disc/short midrange at the time I had it in bag. I gave it away to a guy who later blacked out the number on back sold it on Ebay for $30 because G9i plastic has since been ban by PDGA.
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Old 06-20-2019, 04:39 AM
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Ohhhhh ok. I guess I still dont see the difference, which is great since I really dont need another way to distinguish between Wizards I do have some old and matte grippy firms that are by far the least stable of my Wizards, maybr theyre what youre talking about.
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Wizards are out for delivery! I'll send a pic later and let you guys know what I went with. Thanks for all the help everyone!

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Organic and Eraser (like most of their blends) both have been run in different flexibilities so you can't guarantee that you're going to get firm blends.
So true about Money. Can't kick a run of $$ as my main putter; great grip, yet very firm. So straight and glideless once beat in. Awesome circle putter and sticky approach disc.

But alas, not able to find a run to back them up. Tried $, $$, $$$, G-Series $. No match.


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Wizards tend to not glide as much so you could find yourself hitting cage more than chains.
Right on. Wish Fossil Fuel would make a comeback, those were some glidy a$$ Wizards. So tight and low shouldered. Fast fast disc.


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I think the best combo of firm and grippy that I've tried is RDG's Fossil. I haven't bought one since the first couple runs so someone else may be able to help with the current run's characteristics. If firm is your main criteria, the Pure White blend should be sufficient.
Later runs of Fossil vary in the firmness category. PW for the win in firmness consistency.


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And Wizards are best bought in pairs (at least).
Stamp color gotta match! So whack getting a stack of 5 with 2 having one color, 2 having another, and the last with a 3rd unmatched color. Total red-headed step-child moment.
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G9i plastic has since been ban by PDGA.
Got any proof of that? I keep hearing people mention that, but I’ve never seen anything from the pdga about it. Just lots of folks repeating things they heard from a guy who had heard from someone else.
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