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Old 07-16-2019, 03:34 PM
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Can you imagine how insane the live chat on YT would be with 15-20k people watching, lol? Its almost too much as it is with the couple hundred that participate in it with 3-5k.
I really could not care less about the chat.

Maybe it serves a purpose for a single card live broadcast with significant downtime, but if they're showing multiple cards simultaneously, the down time ought to be minimal. I'd imagine the majority of the 15-20K viewers wouldn't even bother with the chat.
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Old 07-16-2019, 03:40 PM
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the best chat was when they had a static camera on the island hole... "splashdown counter now at 15"

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Old 07-16-2019, 03:48 PM
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What confuses me most is why this many people are made so insecure by cornhole on ESPN. There have been a hundred of these threads between here and Facebook...specifically about cornhole, no other sport.

A. Good for Cornhole! I'll bet somebody did a helluva job pitching and securing that sale. I'd be interested in buying that person a beer and hearing the story behind the scenes of the effort it took to accomplish that.

B. Who the F#*& cares? Our biggest channel hit 100k subs this year and will probably hit 200k before the end of the 2020 season. CCDG will overtake SpinTV and become the #2 most subbed channel by the end of this year, and the number of regularly-filming crews has doubled in the last couple of seasons.
My guess is, that of all the sports that certain disc golf boosters feel are less deserving than disc golf of major network attention, yet getting it, they view cornhole as the stupidest. If tic-tac-toe got a live broadcast on ESPN, it would probably supplant cornhole in these threads. If cornhole went away, some other remaining sport would be the subject of them. (Poker had a run, a few years ago).

I'm with you in the "who cares?" camp, though.

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Old 07-16-2019, 03:53 PM
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My guess is, that of all the sports that certain disc golf boosters feel are less deserving than disc golf of major network attention, yet getting it, they view cornhole as the stupidest. If tic-tac-toe got a live broadcast on ESPN, it would probably supplant cornhole in these threads. If cornhole went away, some other remaining sport would be the subject of them. (Poker had a run, a few years ago).

I'm with you in the "who cares?" camp, though.
FWIW, poker's run is still going, although not nearly as much as it was 10-15 years ago during the poker boom.

Also, the Scripps Spelling Bee has been on ESPN for 25 years now.
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Old 07-16-2019, 03:55 PM
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FWIW, poker is still getting its run (though not nearly as much as it was 10-15 years ago during the poker boom). The Scripps Spelling Bee has been on ESPN for 25 years now.
True. I meant that it had it's run in these forums, of people crying that poker was on TV and disc golf wasn't.
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Old 07-16-2019, 04:18 PM
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My guess is, that of all the sports that certain disc golf boosters feel are less deserving than disc golf of major network attention, yet getting it, they view cornhole as the stupidest. If tic-tac-toe got a live broadcast on ESPN, it would probably supplant cornhole in these threads. If cornhole went away, some other remaining sport would be the subject of them. (Poker had a run, a few years ago).

I'm with you in the "who cares?" camp, though.
Agreed. Hopefully my post points out the inherent...oddity...of kissing ESPN's ring so hard.

I'll sound like a broken record here, but we are a sport whose media has come-of-age on the internet, not on cable. Going to ESPN is going backwards, and it's truly only an issue in the minds of people who have an inferiority complex tied to their disc golf love.

The only way I'll be happy with ESPN is if they come begging us. They've had their opportunity, people have reached out, and producers within the network play disc golf and are stumping hard. If the brass doesn't see the vision, well that's their issue. Long term we're actually better off without them.

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Disc golf, as it exists today, is borderline unwatchable by anyone who does not play/love the game.
Disagree, on two separate occasions I've sat on the couch and watched a round of Jomez with two different friends who had never played a round. Drone footage, production value and commentary help, I think.

One of those buddies now plays and even accompanied me to go spectate BSF this year.

That all being said, I do understand that it's not the most exciting thing. I mean, it's golf after all. It's more accessible than most sports I think though, low cost of entry, simple enough rules to understand what's going on for the casual observer.
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Old 07-16-2019, 05:04 PM
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Agreed. Hopefully my post points out the inherent...oddity...of kissing ESPN's ring so hard.

I'll sound like a broken record here, but we are a sport whose media has come-of-age on the internet, not on cable. Going to ESPN is going backwards, and it's truly only an issue in the minds of people who have an inferiority complex tied to their disc golf love.

The only way I'll be happy with ESPN is if they come begging us. They've had their opportunity, people have reached out, and producers within the network play disc golf and are stumping hard. If the brass doesn't see the vision, well that's their issue. Long term we're actually better off without them.
It did, and I agree on the ESPN-worship.

Though from a slightly different perspective---I don't believe disc golf will ever be a major spectator sport, for non-disc-golfers, on the scale that "ESPN" suggests. Which is fine with me; we can be an ever-growing participation sport, and the spectator side can grow as far you guys can take it.

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What confuses me most is why this many people are made so insecure by cornhole on ESPN. There have been a hundred of these threads between here and Facebook...specifically about cornhole, no other sport...
I'm guessing its just the name, cornhole.

It's like the old John Lovitz skit on Saturday Night Live "I can't believe I'm losing to this guy".

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This is a giant problem for dg in terms of potential non-player viewership and no amount of yellow rope is ever going to overcome it.
I've noticed that when I show DG to people they are way more impressed if they see a wooded hole. "Where's the target? Through all those trees? There's no way...wait, did he just throw a disc 400' through a forest?! How about that."
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