pierce falling putt

[coupe]

Originally Posted by chevis

ok, let's say that tree is smaller, where it would move if she grabs it. according to that qa, it becomes a violation because the tree moves when she grabs it.

Not necessarily. QA-STA-2 specifically applies to the stance, not the followthrough: [quote]QA-STA-2: Can I hold onto a branch or other object behind my lie while putting?

Holding on to something behind your lie for support is not prohibited by the rules, provided that the object is in-bounds. It also must not be moved, since you are required to take the stance that results in the least possible movement of obstacles on the course. You are not allowed to hold onto another person for support, as that person is not part of the course.[/qoute]

Since it is clear in the video that Pierce does not make contact with the tree until after the putt is released, any movement could be considered incidental if it were judged to have been caused by her throwing motion (which is specifically permitted in 803.01.A), and therefore not a violation.

[dmoore1998]

Originally Posted by Ess-dog

I thought the more interesting piece was that there wasn't a call made (because you can barely tell on camera so in person it'd be easy to miss - who's looking for that infraction?), she had just bogied the last 5 of 8 and had tanked her chances already, and then she continued inserting her issue into the card interfering with their round. All while Missy Gannon ran away with it and Ohn squeezed into 2nd.

I get why she did it though...I mean she outright admitted why she did it. She knew it was on camera, and she was worried about being called a "cheater" by the internet.

[Smigles]

Originally Posted by Cgkdisc

Contact appears to be behind her lie. No foul. (QA-STA-2) Even if she were falling forward and used that specific hand position on the tree behind her lie to pull herself back to steady herself, no foul as long as she doesn't make contact with a supporting object or playing surface in front of her lie before regaining balance.

Does it matter in which direction you are falling? The rule says you have to demonstrate balance, how are you demonstrating balance when you are falling in any direction?

[krupicka]

Originally Posted by Smigles

Does it matter in which direction you are falling? The rule says you have to demonstrate balance, how are you demonstrating balance when you are falling in any direction?

You only need to demonstrate balance before going past your lie.

[coupe]

Originally Posted by dmoore1998

I get why she did it though...I mean she outright admitted why she did it. She knew it was on camera, and she was worried about being called a "cheater" by the internet.

So instead she calls everyone else on her card cheaters.

Real nice.

[Smigles]

Originally Posted by krupicka

You only need to demonstrate balance before going past your lie.

So you can putt, fall down (behind your lie), get back up, hop on one leg to demonstrate balance, advance past your lie and that counts?

[Nick Pacific]

Originally Posted by Cgkdisc

Contact appears to be behind her lie. No foul. (QA-STA-2) Even if she were falling forward and used that specific hand position on the tree behind her lie to pull herself back to steady herself, no foul as long as she doesn't make contact with a supporting object or playing surface in front of her lie before regaining balance.

Learn something new here all the time, thank you. Even Paige didn't know that!

[chevis]

Originally Posted by Smigles

So you can putt, fall down (behind your lie), get back up, hop on one leg to demonstrate balance, advance past your lie and that counts?

yes. you don't even have to hop on one leg, just getting back up demonstrates balance... or does it?... maybe you get struck in the head just as you release your disc, falling down (backward), but you are woosy from the blow to the head & stumble past your lie trying to get back up. "footfault!" adding insult to injury.

[txmxer]

It's similar to no rolling stops at stop signs.

[Cgkdisc]

Originally Posted by Smigles

So you can putt, fall down (behind your lie), get back up, hop on one leg to demonstrate balance, advance past your lie and that counts?

This Demonstrate Balance video remains valid under current rules.