2023 PDGA Champions Cup, April 20-23

[Shadrach3]

Originally Posted by ToddL

A big reason for the changes is because hole 14’s tee is behind hole 1’s tee and 18’s basket. It’s annoying to have an errant drive hit 1’s tee or 18’s green at high speed. Players exiting 18 had to peek around the corner to make sure no one was driving on 14. Players on 14 had to wait for 1 to finish teeing. The best change for 14’s tee is to move it shorter and right, which now puts it near interference with 18’s green/fairway. Players transitioning from 13 to 14 would have to sneak past 18’s green. So 18 was moved to the field, out of the way of 14, and a better viewing experience for spectators.
And at least for CC, players don’t warm up on that field. They warm up on the other side of Warner next to their parking area.

There’s a few other minor changes (at least for FPO) to make scoring better.

Thanks, that’s a helpful explanation for how it improves course flow as well as spectator experience. I can visualize those exact issues you mention!

[robdeforge]

Originally Posted by nothinbuttree

Because there are too many professionals in the current wait list whose livelihood depends on signing up for big events, especially majors. I imagine they know how to sign up for tournaments. So the fact that SO many did not, makes me think the blame may be at least partially elsewhere.

Does anyone here really think ALL these top players thought of a major as an afterthought?

what about the fact that SO many did manage to sign up in time?

I don't disagree that whoever was responsible for sending out the registration info should reflect on the results of the signups and change things up for next year. the fact that a ton of high rated players did manage to sign up leads me to believe that the blame lies entirely with those that didn't sign up in time.

[Orioles_Lefty]

It would be unfair to criticize the PDGA for poor communication. First, they never **** anything up. Second, they were rightfully busy during the off-season targeting one single member. It was a full-time job.

[BillFleming]

Originally Posted by robdeforge

what about the fact that SO many did manage to sign up in time?

I don't disagree that whoever was responsible for sending out the registration info should reflect on the results of the signups and change things up for next year. the fact that a ton of high rated players did manage to sign up leads me to believe that the blame lies entirely with those that didn't sign up in time.

One possibility I haven't seen mentioned (I may have missed it) is that the tournament got filled before those players tried to register. It's getting very common (IMO) that tournaments are filling up quickly and if "you snooze you lose". Some tournaments fill their list within 24 hours, or sooner, of opening registration.

[runningoz]

According to the way back machine: tiered registration opened Jan 30th for all invited players, Feb 6th for 1020 and up, Feb 13th for 1000 and up, Feb 20 for 980 and up.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230126..._Bushnell_2023

[robdeforge]

Originally Posted by BillFleming

One possibility I haven't seen mentioned (I may have missed it) is that the tournament got filled before those players tried to register. It's getting very common (IMO) that tournaments are filling up quickly and if "you snooze you lose". Some tournaments fill their list within 24 hours, or sooner, of opening registration.

it has been mentioned before (and is mentioned again in the post above mine) that there was tiered registration. anybody who was 1020+ had a week to sign up for MPO before it was opened up to 1000+. the fact that there are a few 990 rated players shows that not enough people signed up for TWO WEEKS for them to be able to make it

Originally Posted by Orioles_Lefty

It would be unfair to criticize the PDGA for poor communication. First, they never **** anything up. Second, they were rightfully busy during the off-season targeting one single member. It was a full-time job.

so weird how the communication was poor and yet the vast majority of high rated players managed to sign up

[DanJon]

Originally Posted by nothinbuttree

Because there are too many professionals in the current wait list whose livelihood depends on signing up for big events, especially majors. I imagine they know how to sign up for tournaments. So the fact that SO many did not, makes me think the blame may be at least partially elsewhere.

Does anyone here really think ALL these top players thought of a major as an afterthought?

Originally Posted by runningoz

According to the way back machine: tiered registration opened Jan 30th for all invited players, Feb 6th for 1020 and up, Feb 13th for 1000 and up, Feb 20 for 980 and up.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230126..._Bushnell_2023

In case you missed this, it was their fault.

[BillFleming]

Originally Posted by DanJon

In case you missed this, it was their fault.

The part that makes me wonder is the "Invited" tier. Who all was "invited"? Maybe those 9XX rated players were part of the invited tier and got to sign up early. It would be nice (but unlikely) to hear from the players that are on the waitlist as to why they didn't get in. Did they procrastinate? Was it closed before it got to them? Were they working on travel arrangements before registering?

[runningoz]

Originally Posted by BillFleming

The part that makes me wonder is the "Invited" tier. Who all was "invited"? Maybe those 9XX rated players were part of the invited tier and got to sign up early. It would be nice (but unlikely) to hear from the players that are on the waitlist as to why they didn't get in. Did they procrastinate? Was it closed before it got to them? Were they working on travel arrangements before registering?

Invite list:
https://www.pdga.com/2023championscup/invite-list

[BillFleming]

Originally Posted by runningoz

Invite list:
https://www.pdga.com/2023championscup/invite-list

So a small list but a few under 1000 rated players.