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Old 02-08-2019, 03:18 PM
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Default Are We Seeing The End Of Jolly Launcher Plastic?

Has anybody else noticed that Innova’s Champion plastic is changing?

I like to peruse the websites of disc golf vendors who have pictures of all their discs, and more and more I’ve been noticing that Innova’s previously perfectly see-through Champion plastic is becoming darker and cloudier, especially in the rim. Some of the new discs feel a bit different too, not quite as stiff as before. For some molds it might be old stock coming through, but for many like the Thunderbird, I don’t think they ever ran it pre-JL.

And for some pure speculation - I think that Innova’s Luster plastic is the happy result of an experiment, an attempt to stretch out the supply of the remaining JL and blend it with the new stuff. I’m going a bit conspiracy theory on that one, but it’s what came to mind, and who doesn’t love a good Innova conspiracy?
Disclaimer - It’s winter here and I haven’t been able to play a lot lately, so I no doubt have a bit of the tinfoil hat sindrome going on, but I’m curious if anybody else has noticed the change too. Perhaps somebody closer to the industry has intimate knowledge, or hands on experience that can shed some light.
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Old 02-08-2019, 03:23 PM
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I hope so...

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Old 02-08-2019, 03:39 PM
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I hope so...
That was a case of “be careful what you wish for” for me. I hated that floppy champ plastic that came before it, but super stiff and overstable got old pretty fast, at least for the classic Innova fairway drivers I had been throwing.
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As long as the what I got my brother for Christmass the bubble Rimed discs are not going to be the norm I hated those as when I came back to disc golf in 2015 Innova was running out the last of those discs. I love the gummy Champion as that was how Champion plastic was when it first came out in 2005. However if this is going to be like a G-Champion the stuff that came out in 2006 right after a mega stiff version stuff where some drivers were micro concave like the Road Runner.
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Old 02-08-2019, 05:00 PM
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I’ve noticed this too. I held some post-Mcbeth Roc3s the other day and they were more opaque on the rim than the Mcbeth ones still in stock.
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I opened this thread to post the exact same three words.

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Old 02-08-2019, 05:11 PM
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Yea its more pearly, some discs Ive seen are very mhch like luster. Grippier. I like it. Gummy champ circa 07 is still my favorite. This new stuff is pretty good though. I do not like the transparent plastic.
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Has Innova peaked?
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Has Innova peaked?
Stardoggy sure did.

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Yea its more pearly, some discs Ive seen are very mhch like luster. Grippier. I like it. Gummy champ circa 07 is still my favorite. This new stuff is pretty good though. I do not like the transparent plastic.
2006-2007 was my least favorite as it is like a flexible G-Champion and not a R-Champion the way the plastic was in the begging. I had to do the hot car method to some mega stiff Champion I got in 2014, my Destroyers for an hour to have them grip like the old 2005 plastic. The discs I got in 2017 the Shark 3 are more soft but not quite the Champion of the old 2005 plastic or the Glow Champion.
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