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Old 08-21-2018, 04:15 PM
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Every pro making a living at disc golf does not have the same skill set, physically or mentally. When you gamble on your own abilities, you have to take everything into consideration.
Sorry. Not buying that players in FP40 (that's the division being discussed, not pros in general) would decide to skip a World Championship because of the style of basket on a couple of the courses. All the other reasons, including the others Nova P mentions...finances, distance, timing, scheduling, injury, etc...make all the sense in the world. Sometimes things just don't work out.

But if all else is lined up and good to go for a player, baskets shouldn't change the equation. Particularly Mach IIIs. It's been a championship level basket for 20+ years. It's still a perfectly acceptable target for a World Championship today. If your game (mental and physical) is weak enough that a particular model of basket is influencing your decisions on where and when to play tournaments, you deserve to be mocked (in a good natured way).
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:43 PM
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But if all else is lined up and good to go for a player, baskets shouldn't change the equation. Particularly Mach IIIs. It's been a championship level basket for 20+ years. It's still a perfectly acceptable target for a World Championship today. If your game (mental and physical) is weak enough that a particular model of basket is influencing your decisions on where and when to play tournaments, you deserve to be mocked (in a good natured way).
I'm not saying its a valid excuse but not all MachIIIs are equal. Once they start getting old, they can be some of the worst baskets out there, especially if the cages and chain assemblies aren't given due maintenance. Just ask anyone who has played at Belmont or the Hambrick in the last few years before they got new baskets...
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I'm not saying its a valid excuse but not all MachIIIs are equal. Once they start getting old, they can be some of the worst baskets out there, especially if the cages and chain assemblies aren't given due maintenance. Just ask anyone who has played at Belmont or the Hambrick in the last few years before they got new baskets...
Broken baskets are a different story, no matter the model. If they're old and broken, doesn't matter if they're Mach I or Mach X or anything in between. Broken is broken. Shouldn't happen at a Worlds though. Part of the approval process to host is the PDGA sending a course inspection team to review the courses. Broken/worn out baskets would immediately go on the list of things to fix. Plain old Mach IIIs that were intact and functioning normally would not.

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Old 08-21-2018, 06:09 PM
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Agree it's probably not 'the baskets'. As for MkIIIs, for those who don't "like them", learn how to putt 'softer'! Oh, don't feel like learning a new skill / trying to adapt to 'a changing environment' (which IS part of "golf's challenge"), then suffer the consequences.

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Old 08-21-2018, 06:36 PM
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If you tried to putt "softer" into the baskets I was referring to, the disc would either and bounce off the chains or hit the chains, fall onto the rim of the basket, and then hit the ground. The best way to make shots on them was to throw nose down, not softer.
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Old 08-21-2018, 07:42 PM
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bb, if the shoe fits...
...but in general, we've been putting at Rutgers' MkIs for decades NOSE UP - and they catch just fine. If you "dial it back"...and if you don't you blow through. I have no sympathy for players who try to fit a round peg in a square hole and complain that the hole is the wrong shape....
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:16 PM
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Mach IIIs: Personally, I don't mind them. I've played on them so often that I know how to putt into them without issues. However, I mentioned them in my list two pages back because while I don't mind them, I hear people slag on Mach III baskets all the time, so I figured it could be a factor.

The final nine video is up! The camera work on holes 1-3 is not great, but I learned in a hurry! Commentary is by me and Kimberly Giannola, who is one of the two players featured in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu6rfX1tfN0

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Now she's gonna want you to film all her rounds. Good luck charm.

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try to fit a round peg in a square hole and complain that the hole is the wrong shape....
Pretty sure this works actually.

Sorry I couldn’t resist....
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Old 09-02-2018, 09:46 AM
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Pretty sure this works actually.

Sorry I couldn’t resist....
It works if your round peg is small enough.

Or so I hear.
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