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Old 10-04-2020, 09:47 PM
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Would love to have a Big Z Wasp, and Jawbreaker available all the time (not just super limited releases).
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Old 10-04-2020, 10:50 PM
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I switched to the Gateway Prophecy. It's sufficiently overstable in Diamond, approaching RocX3 levels. Sure Grip and Hemp are around DX/KCPro in terms of flight and durability.
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Old 10-04-2020, 11:17 PM
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I switched to the Gateway Prophecy. It's sufficiently overstable in Diamond, approaching RocX3 levels. Sure Grip and Hemp are around DX/KCPro in terms of flight and durability.
If I was going to eliminate Rocs (never going to happen), I would start a Prophecy cycle.



It is getting cold out, think I should start this.
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Old 10-05-2020, 12:02 AM
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You can certainly replace a Roc, with something better! (Wasp)
Took my Rocs out a few years ago and never looked back. I have so much more trust in the Wasps.
A stable Z Comet will fly and feel quite close to a Roc as well (but better).
The Wasp feels better in the hand, wider rim ROC with slightly taller nose.

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Old 10-05-2020, 12:20 AM
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I'm looking for a replacement for my dx roc. I really like the bead/depth of the disc and the grippy base plastic. I'd like to be able to cycle the new disc and have an overstable version as well.

I was going to get another dx and a kc pro, but I'd rather support another company instead. I'm not looking to argue about it, just what you know from your experience with the roc and other discs. Thanks.
Lol, there is no replacing the Roc. Many companies have tried, but all have failed.
As an aside, whatever your reasoning is for wanting to abandon Innova, I guarantee you that with enough digging you’d find a similar negative motivation for any other company.
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Old 10-05-2020, 01:18 AM
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So for me I started by going Wasp/Buzzz/Comet when I phased out my Roc cycle. I had grabbed a Wasp on a whim from PIAS for my OS bookend, and as I needed a replacement for my flippy Roc, I grabbed a used and abused Elite-X Comet. After a few rounds, I threw in a Z Comet for my slightly flippy Roc. Rolled Wasp, KC Roc, DX Roc, Z Comet, Elite-X Comet for a while. Ended up using a combination of putters, Buzzes and Stalkers when I finally kicked the Rocs out. Found some used Wasps on FB and bought those to slot between the Z Wasp and Z Comet, worked well until I got a nasty callous on my middle finger from the bead on the Wasps. Ended up slowly phasing in a Buzzz to take over the Wasps spots and have rolled ESP Buzzz, Ti Buzzz (currently MIA, rocking a beat FLX for now), Glow Comet, TS Z Buzzz SS, Elite-X Comet, FR PP Z Sol for now. My Zone and Raptor cover my OS mid needs, unless it gets really windy, then a Malta/Wasp goes back in.

Malta would be a good option, but even in ESP they're kinda hard to cycle.
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Old 10-05-2020, 09:27 AM
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Lol, there is no replacing the Roc. Many companies have tried, but all have failed.
As an aside, whatever your reasoning is for wanting to abandon Innova, I guarantee you that with enough digging you’d find a similar negative motivation for any other company.
good joke

and very true every company/person has their faults
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Old 10-05-2020, 09:35 AM
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Kastaplast Gote is a very nice straight-flier with a hand feel close to the Roc. K1 plastic is phenomenal to boot.
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Old 10-05-2020, 09:57 AM
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Surprised this thread made it so far without much huffing and puffing. Dedicated roc throwers are the most insufferably opinionated disc golfers I've met. You know, the roc is the ONLY midrange to throw. And certain shots can only be made by this one particular run of impossible to find, stupidly expensive rocs that are simply THE choice. Blah blah blah.

I applaud the OP for going a different direction, for whatever the reasons. Lots of companies make a plethora of fantastic discs that can cover any shot.

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Old 10-05-2020, 10:23 AM
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Surprised this thread made it so far without much huffing and puffing. Dedicated roc throwers are the most insufferably opinionated disc golfers I've met. You know, the roc is the ONLY midrange to throw. And certain shots can only be made by this one particular run of impossible to find, stupidly expensive rocs that are simply THE choice. Blah blah blah.

I applaud the OP for going a different direction, for whatever the reasons. Lots of companies make a plethora of fantastic discs that can cover any shot.
We are too busy PM'ing the OP about acquiring his seasoned Rocs.

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