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Old 10-17-2020, 02:15 AM
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yes and no. . .if the rules says max 175g and most of the disc are over that. . thats breaking the rules . . .insignificant or not
Technically yes. Have you ever scaled an opponents disc? Vice versa?

Not something to be a stickler about IMO.

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So based on what people are saying, it sounds like a difference of 4 grams isn't too big of a deal. At what point do you think it becomes noticeable and can affect feel and stability/flight characteristics?
10 grams or so I'd say. More so hand feel and the effects of wind, stability and weight cannot be directly correlated across all companies and molds.
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Old 10-17-2020, 04:22 AM
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yes and no. . .if the rules says max 175g and most of the disc are over that. . thats breaking the rules . . .insignificant or not
Depends on the mold diameter. Some discs go up to 180g.
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Old 10-17-2020, 06:19 AM
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So based on what people are saying, it sounds like a difference of 4 grams isn't too big of a deal. At what point do you think it becomes noticeable and can affect feel and stability/flight characteristics?
Typically heavier = more control. Lighter = more distance. Putters and mids should all be 175 imop. But I do bag a duplicate mold of one of my mids (Tursas) @ 165 which makes it easier to hyzer flip/turn. For drivers you'll see subtle differences every 5 grams, maybe a bit more distance, a touch more sensitive to head wind, etc. At 10+ grams that's when you start seeing obvious changes. Especially with longer flight high speed drivers. You might get that late fade you were not getting before, more distance in a tail wind, more turn over in a head wind, easier to roll, etc.

Now what's cool to experiment with is throwing and comparing a 175 under stable driver to a 155-145 over stable driver. Distance and perhaps more control. For some people this is how they get their max d.
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Old 10-17-2020, 07:15 AM
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So based on what people are saying, it sounds like a difference of 4 grams isn't too big of a deal. At what point do you think it becomes noticeable and can affect feel and stability/flight characteristics?
I start to notice it (feel wise) around 8-10 grams.

Flight wise, that is a tricky question. It depends on your form and the characteristics of the disc; dome, PLH, etc.

If you're a torque monkey, you'll notice it more, if your clean, it has more to do with the slightly increased speed you can throw the disc. If you're throwing a max weight DX Teebird and then switch to 160gr DX Teebird and you're turning and burning it, it's you, not the disc and there are form issues. If you have no form issues, you'll notice it goes a little straighter and maybe a little further with less effort.

For most of the last few years I have thrown a bag ranging from 155-162grs. With only a few exceptions, most discs will fly similar to their max weight counterparts (except in real heavy winds).

Anyone who says that they can feel and see the difference in 5 grams, is either extremely sensitive or full of sh!t. Option two is most likely

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Old 10-17-2020, 07:27 AM
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I can tell a 10 gram difference easily. 5 grams, very unlikely
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Old 10-17-2020, 08:33 AM
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I can feel a difference around 8 grams or so.

With that said, I have a stack of putters. Same mold, same plastic. One of them is 172g, every other is 175g. I absolutely cannot feel a difference in them. However, after throwing hundreds and hundreds of 15 and 20 footers, I noticed that one particular putter seems to hit top band a LOT more. Like out of 50 top band hits from a stack of 7 putters, 40+ have been from one particular putter. I just recently realized that was the 172g putter.
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Old 10-17-2020, 02:35 PM
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I can feel a difference around 8 grams or so.

With that said, I have a stack of putters. Same mold, same plastic. One of them is 172g, every other is 175g. I absolutely cannot feel a difference in them. However, after throwing hundreds and hundreds of 15 and 20 footers, I noticed that one particular putter seems to hit top band a LOT more. Like out of 50 top band hits from a stack of 7 putters, 40+ have been from one particular putter. I just recently realized that was the 172g putter.
I do not really feel a difference at 5 grams below max but notice in flight that I can use that for all discs 11 speed and under. 12+ it is at least 8 grams for 12-13 speed and at least 10 grams for 14+ as the benefit for flight though I have never used more then 12-13 speed discs ever in throwing even for normal play.

Putters are the exception where I can notice from a 173-174 or 175 gram disc to a 170 gram, this has to do with how small the rim is I think.

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I can’t tell at all until after 10g by feel, but if it’s a disc I know really well I can sometimes tell by flight.
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I can’t tell at all until after 10g by feel, but if it’s a disc I know really well I can sometimes tell by flight.
Same here for most of that, Most putters being the exception noticing 5 grams+ due possibly to wing width being small.
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