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This link will break in a few weeks because the image is on Facebook. The extra parting line is an accidental artifact from the injection molding process. This is the easiest way to visualize the added nose spacer and differentiate between the OLS and the Sidewinder.

If you want an overstable (relatively) Sidewinder, look for that second parting line. Or just buy an OLS
this was the link https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...104579&page=17

no i want the true sw flight
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Old 10-02-2019, 03:31 PM
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...so current run champ sw are back to the "true" sw flight
I think this is a question? I'm not sure because there is no punctuation.
In case it is a question, YES. I bought a Champ and a Star Sidewinder from DGU/Innova East's warehouse in the late spring of this year. They are both the correct configuration. This Star Sidewinder is the one I described earlier in this thread... 420-440' (on a max D pull but relatively low line) and as long as my pop-top Star Wraiths. Definitely a good batch IMO. Maybe a little on the beefy side for those that don't throw as far.
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Old 10-02-2019, 03:32 PM
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Anyone thrown CD2s vs Sidewinders? I hear they are pretty similar, maybe CD2 a couple notches more stable?
CD2s are a good bit more stable than Sidewinders, are they not?
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Old 10-02-2019, 03:37 PM
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CD2s are a good bit more stable than Sidewinders, are they not?
I don't know CD2s very well at all but I own/have thrown a max weight S-CD2. I played Winthrop with it once and that is all I have thrown it.

That specific S-CD2 is less overstable than a new Sidewinder. If a new SW is 9/5/-1/1.5 then that CD2 would be 9/5/-2/1. I don't know how the other run variations are.
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I think this is a question? I'm not sure because there is no punctuation.
In case it is a question, YES. I bought a Champ and a Star Sidewinder from DGU/Innova East's warehouse in the late spring of this year. They are both the correct configuration. This Star Sidewinder is the one I described earlier in this thread... 420-440' (on a max D pull but relatively low line) and as long as my pop-top Star Wraiths. Definitely a good batch IMO. Maybe a little on the beefy side for those that don't throw as far.
well im going to have to peep some at the store

i loved that old sw flight its really the only spot i couldnt replicate with any other disc

baby turn with baby fade

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Old 10-02-2019, 03:38 PM
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baby turn with baby fade

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yup, those are the sweet ones!
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I thought someone came here once that had good knowledge of the molding process and said there was no such thing as a nose spacer?

Anyway, I just do not get the distance out of an OLS as I do a SW.

Any particular plastic that is most stable in SWs? I would like one or two to compliment the ones I have now that all turn decently.
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I thought someone came here once that had good knowledge of the molding process and said there was no such thing as a nose spacer?

Anyway, I just do not get the distance out of an OLS as I do a SW.

Any particular plastic that is most stable in SWs? I would like one or two to compliment the ones I have now that all turn decently.
I find the Champ Sidewinder to be the most overstable.

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I thought someone came here once that had good knowledge of the molding process and said there was no such thing as a nose spacer?

Anyway, I just do not get the distance out of an OLS as I do a SW.

Any particular plastic that is most stable in SWs? I would like one or two to compliment the ones I have now that all turn decently.
It depends on what someone means when they say "nose spacer." When I say it, I mean that an extra plate has been bolted to one of the mold pieces. This plate will space the two mold halves further apart. That is why I call it a spacer.

This process is absolutely valid in the injection molding arena. Whether or not Innova uses it? I don't have any direct knowledge but the artifacts from the molding process definitely point in that direction. You shouldn't get that type of flashing unless there was a separate piece.

And I agree with Streets, Champ is the most reliably overstable plastic choice. But Star plastic is so close in stability that your plastic preference should be the determining factor.

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