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Old 09-14-2019, 12:22 AM
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Welp. I had my first "flip in a headwind and don't come back" moment with my Raider yesterday. Unfortunately, it happened on a hole with an OB creek on the right. Took me a good 20 minutes to find it. What's really frustrating is it was a great throw distance wise on an uphill Par 4. Would've had an easy up-and-down for birdie if it had stayed in.

In related news, I will definitely be going to the local shop to pick up a Lucid this weekend.
I dig my Raider, but I probably wouldn't throw it in any headwind situation. It just doesn't have enough late fade to fight back at the end of flight.

The Defender would work better for headwinds. When that thing decides to fade, its sudden and dramatic.
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Old 09-14-2019, 01:46 AM
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I dig my Raider, but I probably wouldn't throw it in any headwind situation. It just doesn't have enough late fade to fight back at the end of flight.

The Defender would work better for headwinds. When that thing decides to fade, its sudden and dramatic.
I don't have your arm speed, so I can get a little more stability out of my discs. I bag a PDx for *real* headwinds but the Raider had been holding up fine in <15 mph winds. Maybe thrown with a little extra hyzer in that 12-15mph range, but it was still consistently coming back. I guess I've hit one too many trees at this point...my Raider is no longer fresh.
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Old 09-17-2019, 06:59 PM
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Just purchased a 168 raider. Hoping to become a bomber
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Old 09-19-2019, 12:05 AM
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Just purchased a 168 raider. Hoping to become a bomber
Nice! I'm still getting the hang of the raider. I've found that if thrown hard on slight hyzer, it glides while fading forward pretty nicely. Similar to a beat in defender.
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:17 PM
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Just let loose on the 168 raider at the course. Def less stable and very workable. Will be an under stable bomber for sure. The new lucid has great glide. It turns more than the 2 fuzion or the SE I have at 174. Nice compliment
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Old 10-04-2019, 09:08 PM
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I picked up a fresh Lucid Raider to pair with my slightly beat Fuzion. The flight path is exactly what I was looking for. However, it's a lot more domey than my Fuzion Raider and thus not nearly as comfortable in the hand. Is that just how the Raider molds up in Lucid plastic, or are there some flattish Lucid Raiders out there? I'm not looking for board flat, just something average for a stable distance driver.
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:59 PM
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Handeye supply subscription box this month has a biofuzion raider in it
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:52 AM
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Picked up a 175 with tourney money. Was too OS for any real use by me here( so little wind) so i gave it to a forehander who may eventually beat it to useful.
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Old 10-21-2019, 10:51 PM
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Biofuzion raiders up on infinite
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Old 10-22-2019, 04:17 PM
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The Stock Fuzion Raiders are fantastic. These have outperformed everything I have thrown. They are what I wanted to the Star Destroyer to be. Smooth 375 both FH and BH. I was even pushing them out to 400 on hyzer/golf lines at my last tournament. I haven't noticed any issues in 10-15 mph headwinds. I don't think I would be throwing them into 20 mph headwinds though. Really interested if/when they come out with the Lucid-X version. That could be a really nice complement on windier days.

Some interesting things I've found over the past few months:
- The Lone Star stamp ones have a bit more HST but much more LSF. The really dump out at the end of the flight.
- Once you go lower than 170 you start to notice more turn than the max weight versions.
- I actually haven't noticed any more stability out of the Lucid versions. I would imagine the BioFuzions are more understable, but I'm not sure.
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