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Old 07-16-2021, 04:29 PM
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Here is some footage from a week ago, I have been on the road since then and had not chance to upload or practice. Those I threw quite hard, but not as hard as I could. The shots went to 260'-270' and those are one of the longest putter shots I have thrown on that field (and probably elsewhere as well, but the field gives the fixed reference of the length of the throws).

As you can see from the view behind, I brought the disc more behind my body and had the shoulders turned 180 degrees from the target. I do not know if that is good or not, but was what SW advised to do with hammer and ewalk, so could as well do it with regular throws, I suppose.





To end the session, I did some understable/neutral midrange disc drives as far as I could manage and to my delight, I could consistently throw 90 % of those midranges closer than 20' to the other end line of the field and the field must be pretty close to 300' (295' if I had to guess an exact number). Even though I have occasionally managed to shoot over the field, never had threatened the end line so consistently. A victory, albeit a small one.
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Old 07-16-2021, 06:41 PM
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You aren't dropping into the plant. Your rear knee stays extended and shoulder stays up and elbow drops. Your shoulder should follow your CoG dropping into the plant, so the shoulder lowers and loads down into the elbow/disc plane.

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Old 07-18-2021, 04:44 PM
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You aren't dropping into the plant. Your rear knee stays extended and shoulder stays up and elbow drops. Your shoulder should follow your CoG dropping into the plant, so the shoulder lowers and loads down into the elbow/disc plane.
Thanks! So similarly as the muscles of the rear leg and foot generate most of the force to pull the door frame, the same muscles should have the main responsibility in pushing my CoG and weight pressure to the front foot in the throw? I have been thinking a lot the issue why my shoulder rises every time I try to apply even some power to the throw and that might be one of the issues behind it.

Yesterday I did some OLDs, here is the footage. I tried to pay now attention to feedback from the previous OLD session and for the reference, the footage and feedback is copied below. I guess I improved those mentioned issues and the shots did feel better than back then. When comparing to SW22's OLD form, his upper body seems to be more forward addressed and athletic/aggressive. The upper body positioning has been one of the issues I have been trying to think and pay attention to in OLDs as in other drills as well, but I seem to have hard time understanding it. Generally, if I tilt my upper body left of tee, I am able to throw only hyzer shots.





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I did some one-leg drills on the field. A couple of shots from both side and back.





What do you think? The follow-through felt somewhat violent on the shoulder. Most of the shots left on quite a steep hyzer angle.
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You are taking it too literal. There should be a slight shift or walk back to the right tee side in the backswing. Note how your body moves toward the left tee side in backswing while I'm moving back toward the right tee side. Your weight pressure is staying on your rear toes and increasing, while I'm moving the pressure and rolling back to heel/targetward and then back to toes.

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More staggered stance, moving left foot back toward right tee and keep front heel on ground, but let toes come up. Note how my center has shifted more toward right tee/heels while you are staying more over your toes/left tee.



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Do the hips rotate in the OLD during the backswing more or somehow exaggeratedly in comparison to standard standstill throw? I mean, it seems to me that in the OLD (and hammer toss) your hips are turned completely (or at least 160 degrees) away from the target, but in the standard standstill the hip rotation is much less clear.

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Do the hips rotate in the OLD during the backswing more or somehow exaggeratedly in comparison to standard standstill throw? I mean, it seems to me that in the OLD (and hammer toss) your hips are turned completely (or at least 160 degrees) away from the target, but in the standard standstill the hip rotation is much less clear.
In OLD the rear foot is staggered back more out of the way which allows the pelvis to rotate further back. OLD(and Elephant Walk) drill is a more of a rotational(and vertical) drill with a little horizontal motion.

In "standstill" there is more horizontal motion and the rear foot needs to be more inline to brake the horizontal motion of the backswing and redirect targetward. Being more inline also restricts the pelvis from rotating further back. So it's a balancing act to find the right amount of stagger and width of stance to maximize the mix of forces.


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