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Exactly. Important distinction to be made between the actual L molds (FL, Eagle L, etc.) vs. the fatter rimmed drivers that can form up differently despite being run in exactly the same mold.

I'd prefer to avoid the misleading descriptions like "L-wing Destroyer" and just call it what it is: a Destro that formed up with a less concave wing bottom when cooling from the mold.

This will all be cleared up once I finally publish my Disc Golf Lexicon And Style/Usage Guide.
Then the exact same thing happened to the Wraith in the 2000's mostly the champion with the Ken Climo name on them.
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Old 11-14-2019, 08:48 PM
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The "L Wing" Destroyers were just a nickname for the wonky wing that many of them had. Bad consistency control, not an actual mold piece.
no the Straight winged Destroyers are what I have called a L wing but made in the same mold as the standard X wing, forming different. I have called these that as to separate the molds and the fact the Wraith mostly Champion that had the same straight wing in the 2000's was designated the L wing even though it is not a separate wing like the Eagle.
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Old 11-15-2019, 10:32 AM
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no the Straight winged Destroyers are what I have called a L wing but made in the same mold as the standard X wing, forming different...
Maybe it's just me, but I find referencing discs like this just adds to the confusion.

If it's an "L", it's an "L"....if it's an "X", it's an "X" and "perceived" flight characteristics should not change that.

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Old 11-15-2019, 01:53 PM
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What adds to the confusion is there is a new mold starting with the Wysocki Destroyers. The first run of the new mold happen to have stright wings.
Is it the mold or the molding?
We'll find out when they make more.

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Old 11-15-2019, 02:02 PM
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What adds to the confusion is there is a new mold starting with the Wysocki Destroyers. The first run of the new mold happen to have stright wings.
Is it the mold or the molding?
We'll find out when they make more.
I meant to say, " another thing that adds to the confusion".
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Old 11-15-2019, 07:14 PM
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Then the exact same thing happened to the Wraith in the 2000's mostly the champion with the Ken Climo name on them.
You got a picture of a Ken climo champ wraith?

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Old 11-15-2019, 08:25 PM
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(Pretty sure I'm being generous)

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Old 11-15-2019, 11:02 PM
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You got a picture of a Ken climo champ wraith?
No as I never got a disc Past speed 9 until I got the Innova champion Destroyer both in 2014, so I could be wrong on the name. These Wraith from 2008 that were Champion did have a player signature on them just, I might have forgotten who.
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:07 PM
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Maybe it's just me, but I find referencing discs like this just adds to the confusion.

If it's an "L", it's an "L"....if it's an "X", it's an "X" and "perceived" flight characteristics should not change that.

But if from time to time these Destroyer and Wraith actually form with a straight wing due to the forming process, then yeah we have a problem on what to call them. These discs need a designation to them as Wraith at one point in Star did what the ones in Champion did for some runs one year in the 2000's.
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Old 11-16-2019, 06:08 AM
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You are best served by believing maybe 50% at best of what you read here.




(Pretty sure I'm being generous)
It's X-wings and Y-wings. I'll even do A and B-wings. Original trilogy only. Aren't you all arguing about prequel nonsense. Jar Jar plastic teebirds? Innova is so inconsistent lately. But rocs and teebirds are still the gold standard. Even though they all fly different. How do you tell what run you're getting? Agree Hampstead. 50 percent is generous too.
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