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View Poll Results: Which of these best describes Hole 18 at the Utah Open?
A par 2 where 38% of throws are errors, and 1% of throws are hero throws. 6 25.00%
A par 3 where 24% of throws are errors, and 33% of throws are hero throws. 16 66.67%
A par 4 where 16% of throws are hero throws, and 23% are double heroes. 1 4.17%
A par 5 where 37% of throws are hero throws, and 21% are double heroes. 0 0%
A par 6 where 16% of throws are hero throws, and 62% are double heroes. 1 4.17%
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Old 09-18-2018, 03:55 PM
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2018 Delaware Disc Golf Challenge presented by Innova - National Tour, FPO Layout

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Old 09-18-2018, 10:39 PM
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2018 Canadian Disc Golf Championships Presented by Dynamic Discs, Hillcrest Farm DGC
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Old 09-18-2018, 11:33 PM
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2018 Canadian Disc Golf Championships Presented by Dynamic Discs, Huck It Disc Golf
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:50 AM
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Since a wide range of players played both courses, I might as well show the calculated pars for all skill levels. (Red is mostly, and Green is pure, extrapolation.)


Note that the Hillcrest pars which were set for the Blue tees are pretty good. Hole #14 could be a par 6.




Again, it looks like Advanced pars were used for an A-tier Open event. For shame. Note that the Huck It pars don't change much with skill level. White (900) par and Blue (950) par are the same. You could even say that Intermediate pars were used for an A-tier Open event.

A course where Pars don't change by skill level probably is not testing skill very well. That's not really what you want in a Championship course.

If you'll indulge me in a digression, here is a chart that shows how the players were sorted by round. The left and right rounds are Hillcrest, the middle round is Huck It.
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Old 09-24-2018, 11:03 PM
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2018 United States Women's Disc Golf Championships

Now we know there can be FPO par 2s.

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Old 10-03-2018, 06:11 PM
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2018 United States Disc Golf Championship, first round data only.




Looks like Hole #10 might not have quite lived up to its Par 4 billing. On the other hand, hole #18 came within an ill-timed sneeze of deserving to be called a par 5.

It's nice to see pars that are not set for Advanced or Intermediate.
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:41 AM
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Final Stats for all hole locations. I bet most people would not think if this as a fairly birdie-heavy course, but it is.



Here is the scoring distribution for the only hole where I would recommend a different par.

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Old 10-08-2018, 12:55 PM
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One of the conversations that Jeremy Kolling and Nate Sexton have had during the USDGC is hole difficulty. Of course, hole difficulty is a measure of average score vs par. Such a discussion only has merit if par actually has meaning. Calling a hole hard because par was set too low, or easy, because par was set to high, means that a big chunk of your commentary is meaningless. It's good to see that the USDGC team does such a good job of getting this right.
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