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Old 04-09-2019, 04:36 PM
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Certain runs have a certain feel that pros get comfortable with and that feel will change from run to run so when a pro falls in love with a disc they will stock up so they can have that disc for years to come. Back when I was in college I turned all my crap plastic into backups of discs that I loved and a decade later I still have that same backup of discs. Careful and diligent planning has many advantages.
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Old 04-11-2019, 01:15 PM
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I understand all that. The point of an Innova sponsored and promoted ITB is to show what their top pros are throwing so people will flock out to buy their discs. You can't go out and buy an 11x teebird or a 10x roc.
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Old 04-11-2019, 02:41 PM
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It makes more sense for casuals/noobs.

They don't watch ITB's, just us dorks.

Casuals just see the 2x World Champ throwing dinosaur stamped drivers really far and rush out to buy them.

If you're searching out old vintage Innova, you're not really their target market, but you're still most likely a dedicated Innova thrower.

There's bound to be at least one disc in your bag that you still buy new/replace.

Innova probably just hopes that's a dinosaur stamped Destroyer.

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Old 04-11-2019, 08:05 PM
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You can't go out and buy an 11x teebird or a 10x roc.
Lol, yeah you can.
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Old 04-11-2019, 08:08 PM
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Yes you can. When you find one for sale, which is often.

The problem is innova doesn't get the money for those sales.

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Old 04-11-2019, 08:11 PM
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It makes more sense for casuals/noobs.

They don't watch ITB's, just us dorks.

Casuals just see the 2x World Champ throwing dinosaur stamped drivers really far and rush out to buy them.

If you're searching out old vintage Innova, you're not really their target market, but you're still most likely a dedicated Innova thrower.

There's bound to be at least one disc in your bag that you still buy new/replace.

Innova probably just hopes that's a dinosaur stamped Destroyer.
Yep or the limited run stiff Pro Pig that Ricky uses, hoping enough players use it to make a Driver Pro Plastic Pig into Production run or a Limited run Stiff Pro Pig even maybe a KC Pro Pig with a Ricky signature stamp on it.

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Yes you can. When you find one for sale, which is often.

The problem is innova doesn't get the money for those sales.

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Not at the moment will Innova get the money from a 10x ROC or a 11x Champ Teebird. Innova will get the money from a Ontario ROC, they still make those but in Star and/or DX.

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Old 04-11-2019, 08:38 PM
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Not at the moment will Innova get the money from a 10x ROC or a 11x Champ Teebird. Innova will get the money from a Ontario ROC, they still make those but in Star and/or DX.
I understand that concept but its a double edged sword. In my case I love 11x Eagle-x molds. When it was hard to replace them I went with a non innova alternative hoping to not have that issue again.

Of course that is not exclusive to innova

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I understand that concept but its a double edged sword. In my case I love 11x Eagle-x molds. When it was hard to replace them I went with a non innova alternative hoping to not have that issue again.

Of course that is not exclusive to innova

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I know I found the XL that became OOP in all plastic outside Pro D and impossible to find when I needed a replacement over 10 years later and I found the Stalker and it became OOP too in the one plastic it was made in but I was able to find the plastic for the disc mold.

The 11x Egale L mold also became hard to find in the 2000's as the low to flat top for Eagle became hard to find in any plastic outside of DX at the time up to about 2007 for DX. DX had still in the 2000's the little bead on the outer end of wing to help keep stability on molds so I never got into using the Eagle as I wanted the disc without that little bead on it. Now the XL was a more OS Eagle it flew better and could find in flat top in the 2000's. The Stalker although it has a bead at the inner end of wing it flies how an old flat top Eagle flew, just got 6 extra in the weight I wanted. I never liked the new Eagle disc as the molds were more domed.
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Old 04-11-2019, 11:39 PM
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I too had to move on from XLs. The early Pearlys were almost 2nd run FD good for a stable glide fairway driver...

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