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Old 09-26-2016, 10:53 PM
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Zam said the run numbers didn't even match up. Like a 1.5 run would come in and half of them would be stamped 1.4 before anybody thought to change the stamp. Stuff like that. The run number idea was nice, it just never worked. The Brinster Sentinels are stamped 1.3; they are the 2.3 run. Whoopsies.
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:01 AM
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Qmega 1.3's don't have double rings or san marino tooling. Should they be a 2.1 mold?

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Old 09-27-2016, 12:59 PM
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Qmega 1.3's don't have double rings or san marino tooling. Should they be a 2.1 mold?
Once they switched from the San Marino top to the www top they should have changed the first number IMO. Of course the QMS has had a lot of obvious changes and still has the first number as "1". Run numbers are just fubar...
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Is the HB Veteran identical to the Eagle X ?
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Old 09-27-2016, 03:07 PM
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It's a plus-mold EX.
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For the longest time there was a link to Quad City Disc Golf that gave a complete run-down of Millennium discs and what mold pieces they were made from. Here's the old link, but it's not active:
http://www.quadcitydiscgolf.com/Mill...eptSecret.html

Anyone in Quad City club still have access to the file or list?
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This is from a 2011 archive:

Disc Makeup:
There is a lot of detail that goes into designing a disc golf disc, but in very simple terms every disc is made up of two basic parts: the top plate and the wing, or rim. By changing one or both of those parts to some degree, designer’s give each disc it’s own unique flight characteristics and performance. Here’s a little information about the top plate/ wing configuration for a few of Millennium’s discs.
• The Orion LF is made up of the Starfire/Wraith top with a Firebird-X wing.
• The Orion LS is made up of the Starfire/Wraith top with a unique wing all it’s own.
• The EXP1 is made up of the Banshee top with an Eagle-X wing.
• The Sentinel is made up of the Stingray top with a Cobra wing.
• The Aurora MS is made up of the Shark top with a Stingray wing.
• The JLS is made up of the Teebird with a Whippet wing.
• The Omega SS is a small bead Aviar.
• The Polaris is made up of the Gazelle top with a Whippet wing.
• (The Whippet is a Polaris with a big blunt nose)

Disc Comparisons:
When it comes right down to it, when anyone picks up a new disc they aren’t familiar with, they want to know how it performs to compared to discs they’ve already thrown. Listed below are a few of Millennium’s discs and a how they compare to other discs available to players today.
• The Orion LS is between a TeeBird-L (TL) and a Wraith, more toward Wraith distance with TL control.
• The Orion LF is between an Eagle and a TeeRex, more toward TeeRex distance with Eagle control.
• The QMS flies similar to a Coyote with better wind resistance. It’s extremely straight.
• The S-Omega has nearly the same flight as the Wizard.
• The Omega SS flies very straight in all but moderate to strong headwinds.

Other lesser known facts
Bottom line is, when deciding which discs to carry in your bag, you want to know how they will perform! Here’s a little information about performance of a few Millennium discs.
• The Millennium Orion LS is their most understable driver disc.
• The Q-Sentinels made in “San Marino” are the most overstable Sentinels.
• The other Q-Sents and S-Sents fly the same.
• The Q-Orion LF has less dome than the S-Orion LF and handles the wind better.
• The new Q-JLS and S-JLS are more overstable than previous molds.
• The New S-Orion LS 1.2 is beefier that the 1.1 mold.
• The New S-Orion LF 1.2 is beefier that the 1.1 mold.

CE Plastic Discs (from around 2000 – 2002)
When Innova first introduced it’s Champion plastic, it was called Champion Edition or Candy, (CE) CE plastic. It was a very grippy plastic and many of these earlier runs have become very sought after by both players and collectors alike. Because Millennium discs are manufactured by Innova, several Millennium molds were also produced in versions of this CE plastic in the “Q” plastic runs. Listed below are a few of the discs produced in the Candy plastic for Millennium.
• QJLS 1.1
• CE-JLS Test Run of 2000
• QMS 1.1 (these you can tell by the two different color foils in the stamp)
• Q-Mega 1.1 Proto with bar-stamp
• EXP1 1.6 & 1.7
• Polaris LS 1.12

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For the longest time there was a link to Quad City Disc Golf that gave a complete run-down of Millennium discs and what mold pieces they were made from. Here's the old link, but it's not active:
http://www.quadcitydiscgolf.com/Mill...eptSecret.html

Anyone in Quad City club still have access to the file or list?
This list came from me, and I don't know what I'm talking about in regards to Innova molding. The boss let me run with my best guesses on the matter because (except for the EXP) we didn't know for sure. The author of that link was a sponsored MILL dude on DGR and published my best guesses for mold parts.

So I am the source of that source, and I'm a moron. Take the mold info with a giant grain of salt.

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This is from a 2011 archive:

Disc Makeup:
There is a lot of detail that goes into designing a disc golf disc, but in very simple terms every disc is made up of two basic parts: the top plate and the wing, or rim. By changing one or both of those parts to some degree, designer’s give each disc it’s own unique flight characteristics and performance. Here’s a little information about the top plate/ wing configuration for a few of Millennium’s discs.
• The Orion LF is made up of the Starfire/Wraith top with a Firebird-X wing.
• The Orion LS is made up of the Starfire/Wraith top with a unique wing all it’s own.
• The EXP1 is made up of the Banshee top with an Eagle-X wing.
• The Sentinel is made up of the Stingray top with a Cobra wing.
• The Aurora MS is made up of the Shark top with a Stingray wing.
• The JLS is made up of the Teebird with a Whippet wing.
• The Omega SS is a small bead Aviar.
• The Polaris is made up of the Gazelle top with a Whippet wing.
• (The Whippet is a Polaris with a big blunt nose)

Disc Comparisons:
When it comes right down to it, when anyone picks up a new disc they aren’t familiar with, they want to know how it performs to compared to discs they’ve already thrown. Listed below are a few of Millennium’s discs and a how they compare to other discs available to players today.
• The Orion LS is between a TeeBird-L (TL) and a Wraith, more toward Wraith distance with TL control.
• The Orion LF is between an Eagle and a TeeRex, more toward TeeRex distance with Eagle control.
• The QMS flies similar to a Coyote with better wind resistance. It’s extremely straight.
• The S-Omega has nearly the same flight as the Wizard.
• The Omega SS flies very straight in all but moderate to strong headwinds.

Other lesser known facts
Bottom line is, when deciding which discs to carry in your bag, you want to know how they will perform! Here’s a little information about performance of a few Millennium discs.
• The Millennium Orion LS is their most understable driver disc.
• The Q-Sentinels made in “San Marino” are the most overstable Sentinels.
• The other Q-Sents and S-Sents fly the same.
• The Q-Orion LF has less dome than the S-Orion LF and handles the wind better.
• The new Q-JLS and S-JLS are more overstable than previous molds.
• The New S-Orion LS 1.2 is beefier that the 1.1 mold.
• The New S-Orion LF 1.2 is beefier that the 1.1 mold.

CE Plastic Discs (from around 2000 – 2002)
When Innova first introduced it’s Champion plastic, it was called Champion Edition or Candy, (CE) CE plastic. It was a very grippy plastic and many of these earlier runs have become very sought after by both players and collectors alike. Because Millennium discs are manufactured by Innova, several Millennium molds were also produced in versions of this CE plastic in the “Q” plastic runs. Listed below are a few of the discs produced in the Candy plastic for Millennium.
• QJLS 1.1
• CE-JLS Test Run of 2000
• QMS 1.1 (these you can tell by the two different color foils in the stamp)
• Q-Mega 1.1 Proto with bar-stamp
• EXP1 1.6 & 1.7
• Polaris LS 1.12
Based on personal experience, there are some large grains of salt here.
But overall pretty spot on.
1.2 QJs are probably the beefiest run. There are lots of 1.3 stamped holdover CE QJs. There are board flat 1st Run SOLFs (marked "SOF") that have more general overstability and considerably more LSF than their 1.1 QOF counterparts.

The QOLF is a speed nine EX, basically. The OLS is a slightly straighter Sidewinder. Blah blah blah. Millennium Golf Discs. I love them.
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Old 09-27-2016, 07:03 PM
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what run SOLF was it for the 2006 worlds biggest disc golf weekend does anybody know(had 3 now down to one). they have less faded then the later runs same hss so there flight is amazingly straight with a smooth forward fade finish.
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