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Old 07-18-2011, 05:57 PM
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I just got through playing in a doubles tournament that was flighted. A team was overheard bragging that they had purposely shot worse than they could have in order to place first in the B division of the tournament instead of the middle of the A division. When asked by the TD, they didn't deny it. What should a TD do when he learns of this happening?



Karma did bite them and they placed last in the A division and only came in third. The TD did tell them that if either of them did that again, they would not be allowed to play in another of his tournaments.
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:05 PM
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Thats some pretty lame s***
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:05 PM
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Cant stop bagging when you have divisions. They tried to cut it down with ratings but I think tat has just made it worse.
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:09 PM
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The flaw is in the flighting procedure not the players trying to game the system. The trick is to set up the flight structure and payouts so there's not an incentive to bag. Ratings can solve some of that if available. But let's say not many players are rated. A method used in barrel racing is to have everyone make their first run then divide into three equal sized flights in order of time. Everyone pays the same entry fee but the purse gets divided so the top flight gets something like 60%, second 30% and bottom 10%. So it's likely that third place in the higher flight wins as much or more as first in the next flight below it. Flight events can work but you just hav to be tricky in the method of doing it so there's little incentive to bag.
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Old 07-19-2011, 11:00 PM
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Yeah, there was some pretty bad bagging going on in our club event tonight. Some guys who normally play "pro" in our club events decided since they were playing a course they had never played before that they were "ams", and the TD didn't care enough to enforce them. I told them what BS it was to their face when they signed up but whatever. That along with a bunch of other BS really got under my skin tonight.
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Were the pros ratings under 970? Then no problem entering Advanced. If over 969 then bagging.
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Most of the people that were playing last night are not PDGA members...it was a free event at a newer course to get it some exposure. Also I don't know why these people tried to play that card last night....the course is wide open and boring. There aren't many obstacles and is a grip and rip course.

Most of these "pros" would get owned if they played pro in a pdga.
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I just got through playing in a doubles tournament that was flighted. A team was overheard bragging that they had purposely shot worse than they could have in order to place first in the B division of the tournament instead of the middle of the A division. When asked by the TD, they didn't deny it. What should a TD do when he learns of this happening?



Karma did bite them and they placed last in the A division and only came in third. The TD did tell them that if either of them did that again, they would not be allowed to play in another of his tournaments.
If this was Mt. Pleasant then the same thing happened in the c division. My wife and I played the doubles and the second round the two guys on our card told us "you just have to know how to play flighted tournaments." They proceeded to throw lights out and won with a big margin.
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Old 07-29-2011, 05:22 PM
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I have yet to see the appeal of playing tourneys. I don't play well enough to come close to placing, many players are DBs, and is expensive. Couple I have played(that weren't fundraisers) just weren't worth the money.
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:03 PM
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Baggers are like any other athlete that doesn't whatever that "it" factor is that puts them in the top of their sport. Difference is disc golf unlike most sports offers them the opportunity to drop down to a lower division and beat up on lesser players much easier.
In my experience their higher skill level more often than not makes them play complacent.
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