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Old 08-22-2017, 04:45 PM
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I've been a destroyer thrower for a long time but am thinking about trying the wraith. I am around a 400' thrower. Would there be any advantage to using a wraith over a destroyer or will there be pretty similar results?
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Old 08-22-2017, 06:13 PM
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I've been a destroyer thrower for a long time but am thinking about trying the wraith. I am around a 400' thrower. Would there be any advantage to using a wraith over a destroyer or will there be pretty similar results?
More control on shorter shots and easier to turnover. Honestly if you are throwing 400 accurately with a destroyer a wraith probably doesn't have a spot in your bag.
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Old 08-22-2017, 06:21 PM
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I've been a destroyer thrower for a long time but am thinking about trying the wraith. I am around a 400' thrower. Would there be any advantage to using a wraith over a destroyer or will there be pretty similar results?
It's worth trying for sure. You'll notice it to be slower and not as OS. You might be able to hit the same lines with less effort.
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Old 08-22-2017, 07:11 PM
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I've been a destroyer thrower for a long time but am thinking about trying the wraith. I am around a 400' thrower. Would there be any advantage to using a wraith over a destroyer or will there be pretty similar results?
Mild turn to mild/moderate fade (in star). If you have Destroyers that fly like this for you, then it should be pretty similar. If you're trying to find more Destroyers that fly like that for you...then Wraith is probably a good bet. I haven't thrown enough Wraiths to know if I get a distance difference between them and Destroyers. But at our power level Wraiths have a good golf shot turn and consistent golf shot fade. Whereas with some Destroyers they will feel like they have a positive HSS, massive fade, and will be 70' shorter. But star Wraiths fly the same lines as the kind of Destroyers that I like.
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Old 08-22-2017, 09:18 PM
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I throw just a touch further than you and I've backed down to Traces from destroyers/defenders/octanes/etc. I've noticed maybe 15 (and I mean maybe...) of distance loss, but I've gained a whole bunch of accuracy and have dropped strokes because of it. I don't have to worry about backing off and not getting the complete flip out of it. If you would prefer Wraiths they fly pretty darn similarly. Unless you constantly have to mash something 450++ then I see no need for anything above speed 11. I used to throw Wraiths a lot and then dropped them to seek higher speed stuff, then came back to speed 11s. It's difficult to beat one into the flippy bomber spot, which is why I haven't picked them back up yet. Still a fantastic and underrated mold.

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Old 08-23-2017, 02:11 PM
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I picked up this PFN Wraith the other day. Very excited to hopefully throw it this afternoon.

Related to rusch_bag's question about trying out a wraith instead of a destroyer, I say give it a shot. As a 350' thrower, I have a tendency to lose wraiths because I'm trying to throw them far, which leads to bad shots and lost discs. With my form and arm speed I'm able to throw teebirds way more consistently and accurately than wraiths, and have started throwing teebirds on a many shots where I used to throw wraiths because I'm better off sacrificing 15-25 ft of distance for the increased control.

Backing off the destroyer to the 11 speed wraith will likely give you some increased accuracy because you'll be able to throw it without feeling like you have to try to crush it.
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Old 08-24-2017, 09:33 AM
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Me and my buddy who I play with all the time swear bottom stamp wraiths fly the best. Anyone have any input on this or is it just us?

Also pro wraiths are great to beat in fast and have a good flippy wraith to match a new star.

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Old 08-24-2017, 10:09 AM
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There's no consensus on what qualifies as "fly the best". It's entirely subjective
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Old 08-24-2017, 02:00 PM
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My bottom stamp star Wraith is very HSS and is great for flicks. My pro Wraith is a flippy bomber. Which is best? Dunno. They're both pretty badass for what they are.
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Old 08-24-2017, 06:35 PM
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Flatter patent # champs with a stiff feel I still miss mine.

Side-question what's the closest analog from other manufacturers? I don't like any of the current wraiths I've thrown minus a stiff pro I lost.

Double edit: forgot I do love my new glow wraith. 167 grams of flat money. Sadly, the ones I held in-person seemed to have a lot of dome variation.

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