BillyJackO's Form Adventure*

[billyjacko]

YOU GUYS MADE THIS HAPPEN! lol I'm not going to get too excited until I can replicate with a disc in my hand, and I know there will be an adjustment getting the upper body working with the new lower body form. It's good to know I can still work on form without being in a field. This forced break might end up being the best thing for my game. Seriously though guys, thanks for all the critique.

[billyjacko]

A couple more angles just for documentation reasons. It looks like I'm getting my weight under my hips and seeing the knee bowed in look you see from all the top throwers (this is a first for me). There's work to be done getting back into the power pocket, and driving the elbow out, but I'm focusing mostly on the lower body and not even thinking should/elbow/wrist (especially without a disc in my hand.)

[slowplastic]

Lower body is looking good to me. It's hard to tell with that many frames/sec but you may need to delay the reachback and let the hips/shift happen before the arm so you get that hips/shoulders separation. I realize you haven't been focusing on upper body yet and I totally understand that situation of getting things ingrained.

[billyjacko]

Originally Posted by slowplastic

you may need to delay the reachback and let the hips/shift happen before the arm so you get that hips/shoulders separation.

You're referring to the hips leading the throw right? I can see that. It still feels like everything is kind of happening at once. I was messing around with doing a Nate Doss like wide reach back, and could definitely feel the hinges collapse after the brace. It seems like swinging out wide forces you to delay the pull, and accelerate at the pocket rather than into it. I might try to adapt into throwing like that (I already do for up shots) because it seems like you'd need to have a ton of control to not waste all your energy in the early part of the throw.

And for anyone wondering what helped this "click", it was watching Page Pierce throw slow motion in her 'distance advice' video seen below (starts at 39s). Her kind of karate chop with her off hand, and the way her brace is almost 45 degrees off the ground really helped me understand all the subtle thing's y'all have been explaining. My form will obviously never look like hers because I'm not 5' tall, but she exaggerates every part of the basics I've been struggling with.

[slowplastic]

Yeah, exactly. Get the transfer/hips to have everything to into motion and guide the disc forward/keep the upper arm at a good angle and the forearm back so the hand stays on the outside all the way to the elbow forward position. Then unload.

Watching Paige's form has also helped me a ton, it's just so proper. I wish she had Big Jerm's body for a few throws just to see how far she could blast it if she was his size.

[billyjacko]

Got some throws in today!

First throw with a Buzzz

Big anny that bombed

Couple good throws back to back.

[slowplastic]

Nice, it translated surprisingly well from kitchen to the field. Get some side views too next time. Distances similar to before but easier?

[billyjacko]

Originally Posted by slowplastic

Distances similar to before but easier?

Most definitely. I'd say those last two throws were arpund 400', but it was a pretty good tail wind. I found I was staying nice and consistent if I didn't take my first step with my left foot and being perpendicular to the line. For some reason when I take that first step i take a linger final step which causes all my old issues. Leading with shoulders/tipping over, too long of a plant, opening before I plant. You can see it in the first throw with the buzzz.

[rhatton1]

This is a phenomenal jump in form in the space of a few days for a player with ingrained habits.

It's quite inspirational TBH!!

Keep up the great work.

[HyzerUniBomber]

You're looking a ton better - but I think you're "mushing" a bit. Mushing is when you jump up, come down on your back leg and then take that downward force and mush it forward.



Brinster takes the up part, and for the most part guides himself forward with the back foot - into the brace. He doesn't push forward.

I know from my own past experiences with the hop, that mushing can feel very powerful - but it's not a great solution long term for form. You lose the power that is available when you hop and impact into the brace.