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Old 08-30-2020, 10:15 AM
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I have been out of the game for about 7 years. I thought range finders to measure distance were not allowed but I heard Pierce talking about using one during a tourney. Did that rule change or did it not exist in the first place?
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Old 08-30-2020, 12:21 PM
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Rule changed.

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Old 08-30-2020, 01:01 PM
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Not disallowed in 2013 rulebook. In other words, de facto approval by not disallowing it in the rule book wording.
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Not disallowed in 2013 rulebook. In other words, de facto approval by not disallowing it in the rule book wording.
Chuck, or anyone else, were you privvy to the reasons for that exclusion in the first place?
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Chuck, or anyone else, were you privvy to the reasons for that exclusion in the first place?
Main reason was too expensive to expect everyone to have one or feel they needed one. It's still one of the reasons video and photo evidence is not allowed for rulings.

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Main reason was too expensive to expect everyone to have one or feel they needed one. It's still one of the reasons video and photo evidence is not allowed for rulings.
Interesting, I figured the video or photo footage issue was some sort of luddite influence. I figure you could omit any mention of them and people would be unlikely to use it unless cameras were rolling for other reasons.
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Main reason was too expensive to expect everyone to have one or feel they needed one. It's still one of the reasons video and photo evidence is not allowed for rulings.
Really? That's ridiculous.

I always thought it was because golf did not allow them. (And I thought video/photo evidence was disallowed for the same reason- those ridiculous viewer at home calling in the golf infractions scenarios)

I'm not really sure whether I think they should be legal or not- judging distance is a meaningful skill imo.

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Part of the reason the GPS/rangefinder rule was removed was because 95% of the population were carrying a device that would be considered illegal under the old rule. Carrying a GPS device was sufficient for a penalty under the 2011 rules.

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I can't remember if any penalty resulted but a marshal observed a parent providing distance information to their junior player during 2012 Worlds a year before it was legal.

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Really? That's ridiculous.

I always thought it was because golf did not allow them. (And I thought video/photo evidence was disallowed for the same reason- those ridiculous viewer at home calling in the golf infractions scenarios)

I'm not really sure whether I think they should be legal or not- judging distance is a meaningful skill imo.
I always thought it was because golf didn't as well. I also thought golf didn't allow them because judging conditions was an aspect of the skill of golf.

When golf started to allow rangefinders, the reasoning was that because distance was fixed, all players could have access to that information anyway from Yardage Charts. So, it was no longer a test of skill.

Golf still doesn't allow devices that measure other things like wind speed and slope (at some levels of competition). Those still test the skill of the player to judge conditions.

Which makes me wonder if disc golf should disallow wind gauges.
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