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Old 12-07-2010, 08:56 AM
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Question hyzer flip?

I hear the term hyzer flip a lot on here not sure what it is also turnover shot?
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Old 12-07-2010, 09:03 AM
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Here's a good place to start:

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums...ad.php?t=21021

If that still doesn't answer your question, do a search (based on titles only) for Hyzer Flip in the Technique board and you should find a whole lot of information in there.
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Old 12-07-2010, 09:05 AM
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Works best with an understable disc. It's when you throw your disc, as if you were going to put hyzer on it. You throw it with a lot of snap. An understable disc is designed to fly towards the right, (RHBH) The spin causes the disc to counter it's self by pulling to left. The ulitmate result is to have the disc fly straight. It's a great way to throw a disc that is worn and is turning over on you.
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Old 12-07-2010, 09:06 AM
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Here's a good place to start:

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums...ad.php?t=21021

If that still doesn't answer your question, do a search (based on titles only) for Hyzer Flip in the Technique board and you should find a whole lot of information in there.

Or go here.
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Old 12-07-2010, 09:09 AM
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the hyzer flip is funny in that it can be described several ways. Lets say you throw a wraith 450'. You're going to have to throw it with hyzer because of its HSS unstability. So when you throw it, with hyzer, it will flip up flat and cruise the fade back. Now this isn't exactly a hyzer flip but for all technical purposes it is because you throw it with hyzer, it flips up and flies. Now lets say you have a stingray on a hole that is roughly a 330' tunnel shot (trees lining both sides of the fairway their branches hanging over making lines above 15' impractical. So you take the stingray and throw it on an extreme hyzer and with as much snap as possible. From that extreme hyzer and snap the disc should flip up and fly roughly 300-320' about 4-5' off the ground and straight as an arrow the hole way.

The second description is why some prefer the buzzz over the roc because Buzzz can hit low lines very very well and is also why the "hilled tunnel shot" is one of the most feared for novice and amateur players. That shot being the second one that I just described but it has a mound or slope that you have to deal with making your throwing window roughly 4' in height and 25' in length but it is roughly 6-8' up off the ground... its a ball of suck.
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The best way I've seen it described is by throwing an understable (or beat to hell) disc (those with the lowest, and likely negative, high-speed stability...check the flight chart tool in my sig for some examples like a Roadrunner or Sidewinder).

The release looks like this --> /

As the understability of the disc pulls the inside edge toward the ground, the disc will flip up to a flat position and look like this --> __

Depending on just how understable the disc, the inside edge can continue to pull toward the ground during the high-speed portion of the flight and get to this position --> \

As the speed of the disc declines, the low-speed fade will begin to pull the outside edge downward, making the disc fly back to the flat position --> __

At the end of the flight, the disc slows down considerably, the outside edge is pulled even more downward and the disc will end in this position --> /

So the flight of the disc will have an inverted "S" shape to it and, if viewed from the back of the disc, will fly like this --> / __\ __ /


You may also want to search Hyzer Flip on YouTube to see some examples.
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/ __\ __ /
HAHAHAHAHA!!! that is so perfect....
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Either way you describe it, all it needs to be called a hyzer flip is the disc to be thrown from hyzer (/ RHBH or \ LHBH) and "flip" to flat, or flatten out (__) anything it does after that to me doesnt matter.
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Wow thanks guys. Didn't realize that think the word FLIP throws a lot of people off. Great info sorry to start another thread guess I need to search for stuff from now on. I hate being a noobie feel like a freshmen all over again
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It's all good. The search is useful and some folks will ding you for not using it (I used to be that guy), but if there is something you want to know about, feel free to ask.
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