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Old 11-07-2011, 11:32 AM
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A friend of mine of over 10 years picked up disc golf a few months ago. Since then, he's been gung-ho, ready to play in any weather.

However, he's developing some bad habits in his throwing form. He's watched all the videos, and he and I have worked on it some, but I'm beginning to think it has a lot to do with his ankles.
He was born with CTEV, (club feet.) So his ankles were essentially broken and reset at birth. The effect being that now in his mid-20s, the base of his leg bone basically sits on the top of the connecting bone in his feet, grinding and grinding with no ligaments/etc to buffer. Aside from the pain it causes him during/after a round of DG, it also prevents him from bending his feet/ankles at all. So that nimble, light-footed x-step is impossible for him. So his run-up is very stiff, and being unable to stay up on his toes, his weight falls backwards (balancing on the middle of his feet/heels) on release and throws a lot of unintentional anhyzers.

He also throws a lot of skyrockets. And while I know that's a very typical problem for noobs on longer drive attempts, I think that this too has to do with his ankles. At the beginning of a DG weekend, he throws with great control and nose angle. But as the day/weekend wears on, he begins to throw skyrockets. My feeling is that because putting pressure on his ankles is painful, he stops shifting his weight forward on the pull-through, and releases with his weight almost entirely centered.

My questions are:

1) Does anyone know a player with similar challenges, and if so, what have they done that has helped them?

2) Would he be better off throwing from a standstill?

3) What drills would you recommend?


One thing I've considered is teaching him to throw forehand. Weight shift and run-up, while still part of FH throws, aren't as violent on the lower body as backhand is. And throwing from a standstill is much easier (in my own experience.) What do you think?
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Old 11-07-2011, 11:37 AM
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Towel snap drill. With his disability he needs to focus on his arm movements. He will be able to hit 350 from a standstill with the right form, so he should not get too discouraged by the nimble X steppers.
Personally I put more force on my ankles during sidearm shots, but could just be my own form flaws.

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Old 11-07-2011, 11:54 AM
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Due to ADA, your friend can be excluded from all parts of rule 801.03, but he would have to inform the TD of his disability.
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:41 PM
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From DGR: Right pec drill...

Also, find the Dan Beato video on youtube. Prerube hit the main point. Minimizing the amount he relies on his lower body and focus on getting clean, late acceleration. Building from the hit back until he reaches a point where he must comprimise the run up. In all reality, we all need to do this, but expecially in his case.

Throwing from a standstill, or maybe just the last step into the throw might be good for him. Again, if he's getting thrown off balance during the run up, then he's better off not to do one.

Aside from that, I think it's cool that he wants to play and is willing to work through this. Tell him to keep with it and not to get discouraged. So much of the game is about shorter range shot making and putting, anyway.
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:47 PM
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Talk to gcr_russell. He has knee problems, and can throw 450' from a dead standstill (I've witnessed it first hand, otherwise I wouldn't believe it myself).
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Old 11-07-2011, 05:53 PM
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A wide range of motion in the hips and core should help generate and dissipate energy during his shot and follow through. He's going to have to play within his own limits. I'd think overhands would require the least amount of play in the ankles.
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do all the basic drills
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I would say try a one step, and focus on the mechanics of the shoulders and hips.....My brother has club feet....not sure if his surgery was similar, but I do understand the concern. I have a buddy who can one step rocs almost 400ft, but his form is pretty textbook
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Maybe try the forehand throw. In general I think it is a bit easier on the body. Otherwise like someone else said, a standstill drive when done correctly can produce great distance.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:10 AM
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At the beginning of a DG weekend, he throws with great control and nose angle. But as the day/weekend wears on, he begins to throw skyrockets. My feeling is that because putting pressure on his ankles is painful, he stops shifting his weight forward on the pull-through, and releases with his weight almost entirely centered.
That very well could be an ankle/pain issue, but you might also want to consider fatigue in his back contributing to this too.

BTW, thanks for the thread - its inspiring and encouraging to see someone with the love of the game push through not let himself be limited.
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