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Old 05-11-2015, 02:38 PM
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I like this website. You can adjust to see how the disc would perform at different power levels. (this is a lefty chart)

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Old 05-11-2015, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mocheez View Post
I like this website. You can adjust to see how the disc would perform at different power levels. (this is a lefty chart)

Thanks for the share. That's awesome!
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Old 05-11-2015, 03:43 PM
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Here's another really cool site

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Old 05-11-2015, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Six Card Charlie View Post
I haven't broken in my trak yet but at the moment I agree with you on just using it as a mid. I can throw it on a a big anny to get a turn and fade to end pretty much straight ahead of me but I can't get as much distance with it as my ibex.

I'm pretty much just using it when I need to fade out of an anny faster than a powered down anny throw with the ibex will.
I view my Trak as a longer Ibex with a bit more fade. I can see using it on an anny to get a stronger fade at the end, as I'll use it powered down in a string wind where I'd worry about the Ibex.

Mine are in the 160s.
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According to Vibram, the unLace needs to be thrown at 44 mph for its intended flight. The Trak, by contrast, requires 50 mph.

The difference in stability is the key factor here. I throw all Vibram (all-the-time), and the unLace was the longest disc I threw for about a year, including the Trak, Lace, and Ibex.

I use the inBounds flight guide to compare speeds, but it doesn't work so well for stability comparisons. For that, I've found it's best to field-test.

Joe's Universal flight chart claims that the Trak requires 5 for power. The unLace requires 4 for power. (Which is sort of where I'm basing my claim about the unLace being a pretty straight-flier for newer players, instead of the Trak.)

But I would say also that the Trak is going to be a more consistent and reliable disc in the long-run. If you had an unLace, then you might start learning bad form, such as too much anhyzer- or hyzer-angle.

A disc golfer of any age needs to be balance distance with control. Those who are successful do this more gracefully than those who are less successful.

Inbounds Universal Flight Chart: http://www.inboundsdiscgolf.com/content/?page_id=431
Joe's Universal Flight Chart: http://www.inboundsdiscgolf.com/content/?page_id=431
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