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View Poll Results: Which of these best describes Hole 18 at the Utah Open?
A par 2 where 38% of throws are errors, and 1% of throws are hero throws. 6 25.00%
A par 3 where 24% of throws are errors, and 33% of throws are hero throws. 16 66.67%
A par 4 where 16% of throws are hero throws, and 23% are double heroes. 1 4.17%
A par 5 where 37% of throws are hero throws, and 21% are double heroes. 0 0%
A par 6 where 16% of throws are hero throws, and 62% are double heroes. 1 4.17%
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Old 04-30-2017, 06:06 PM
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Perhaps the definition of par should be, one stroke over what an accomplished player typically makes on a hole
The score an expert player expects to get when he doesn't play like an expert.
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I will add though, one of the goals I think Chuck considers is making putting a two putt situation. Either by changing basket or green configuration.
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The score an expert player expects to get when he doesn't play like an expert.
Okay, now my wife is wondering why I'm chuckling to myself.
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What is par?

One throw more than birdie.

What is a birdie?

One throw less than par.

It's simple.....then why is my head spinning?
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Okay, now my wife is wondering why I'm chuckling to myself.
I haven't a clue.
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I will add though, one of the goals I think Chuck considers is making putting a two putt situation. Either by changing basket or green configuration.
Making putting more difficult is worth considering---there are pros and cons.

But it seems strange to change the game, to make it comply to a scoring system. Or, worse, to the mis-reading of a scoring system, or the scoring system as used by a different sport. It seems to be better to change the scoring system---or simply clarify it---to describe the game.
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Those questions make no sense to me. Par isn't about useful or advantage. It just is.

From golf, some bad uses of the word are when the USGA takes par 5s and labels them 4s. Some of the best in the world can't reach the putting surface in two. All to get a par 70?

Turrrible.
OK, so, why is labeling a par 5 as a par 4 turrible? What bad things happen?
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Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you. The definition I posted is from the dictionary. No one has written a par definition for disc golf in the dictionary.
Is anhyzer in the dictionary? What I posted comes from disc golf.
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OK, so, why is labeling a par 5 as a par 4 turrible? What bad things happen?
The baskets melt.
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OK, so, why is labeling a par 5 as a par 4 turrible? What bad things happen?
Dunno, but labeling Par 4s as Par3s cause commentators to commentate negatively on it. See: Big Jerm and Nate Sexton on some of the GBO Olpe Lake Course coverage.

Seriously, it was interesting what they did at Olpe, and definitely adds to the discussion of this topic...
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